[petsc-users] Smaller assemble time with increasing processors

Runfeng Jin jsfaraway at gmail.com
Sun Jul 2 22:24:36 CDT 2023


Hi! Good advice!
    I set value with MatSetValues() API, which sets one part of a row at a
time(I use a kind of tiling technology so I cannot get all values of a row
at a time).
    I tested the number of malloc in these three cases.  The number of
mallocs is decreasing with the increase of processors, and all these are
very large(the matrix is 283234*283234, as can see in the following). This
should be due to the unqualified preallocation. I use a rough
preallocation, that every processor counts the number of nonzero elements
for the first 10 rows, and uses the largest one to preallocate memory for
all local rows. It seems that not work well.

number_of_processors   number_of_max_mallocs_among_all_processors
64                                     20000
128                                   17000
256                                   11000

    I change my way to preallocate. I evenly take 100 rows in every local
matrix and take the largest one to preallocate memory for all local rows.
Now the assemble time is reduced to a very small time.

number_of_processors   number_of_max_mallocs_among_all_processors
64                                     3000
128                                   700
256                                   500

Event                Count          Time (sec)            Flop
                                                --- Global ---
    --- Stage ----              Total
                   Max Ratio        Max     Ratio       Max  Ratio  Mess
        AvgLen  Reduct  %T %F %M %L %R        %T %F %M %L %R    Mflop/s
64                 1    1.0       3.8999e+01 1.0     0.00e+00 0.0 7.1e+03
   2.9e+05 1.1e+01 15  0  1  8  3                     15  0  1  8  3
          0

128               1    1.0       8.5714e+00 1.0     0.00e+00 0.0 2.6e+04
 8.1e+04 1.1e+01  5  0  1  4  3                       5  0  1  4  3
           0
256               1    1.0        2.5512e+00 1.0    0.00e+00 0.0 1.0e+05
 2.3e+04 1.1e+01  2  0  1  3  3                       2  0  1  3  3
           0

So the reason "why assemble time is smaller with the increasing number of
processors " may be because more processors divide the malloc job so that
total time is reduced?
 If so, I still have some questions:
    1. If preallocation is not accurate, will the performance of the
assembly be affected? I mean, when processors receive the elements that
should be stored in their local by MPI, then will the new mallocs  happen
at this time point?
    2. I can not give an accurate preallocation for the large cost, so is
there any better way to preallocate for my situation?



Barry Smith <bsmith at petsc.dev> 于2023年7月2日周日 00:16写道:

>
>    I see no reason not to trust the times below, they seem reasonable. You
> get more than 2 times speed from 64 to 128 and then about 1.38 from 128 to
> 256.
>
>    The total amount of data moved (number of messages moved times average
> length) goes from 7.0e+03 * 2.8e+05  1.9600e+09 to 2.1060e+09
> to 2.3000e+09. A pretty moderate amount of data increase, but note that
> each time you double the number of ranks, you also increase substantially
> the network's hardware to move data, so one would hope for a good speed up.
>
>    Also, the load balance is very good, near 1. Often with assembly, we
> see very out-of-balance, and it is difficult to get good speedup when the
> balance is really off.
>
>    It looks like over 90% of the entire run time is coming from setting
> and assembling the values? Also the setting values time dominates assembly
> time more with more ranks.  Are you setting a single value at a time or a
> collection of them? How big are the vectors?
>
>    Run all three cases with -info :vec to see some information about how
> many mallocs where move to hold the stashed vector entries.
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 30, 2023, at 10:25 PM, Runfeng Jin <jsfaraway at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>     Thanks for your reply. I try to use PetscLogEvent(), and the result
> shows same conclusion.
>     What I have done is :
> ----------------
>     PetscLogEvent Mat_assemble_event, Mat_setvalue_event,
> Mat_setAsse_event;
>     PetscClassId classid;
>     PetscLogDouble user_event_flops;
>     PetscClassIdRegister("Test assemble and set value", &classid);
>     PetscLogEventRegister("Test only assemble", classid,
> &Mat_assemble_event);
>     PetscLogEventRegister("Test only set values", classid,
> &Mat_setvalue_event);
>     PetscLogEventRegister("Test both assemble and set values", classid,
> &Mat_setAsse_event);
>     PetscLogEventBegin(Mat_setAsse_event, 0, 0, 0, 0);
>     PetscLogEventBegin(Mat_setvalue_event, 0, 0, 0, 0);
>     ...compute elements and use MatSetValues. No call for assembly
>     PetscLogEventEnd(Mat_setvalue_event, 0, 0, 0, 0);
>
>     PetscLogEventBegin(Mat_assemble_event, 0, 0, 0, 0);
>     MatAssemblyBegin(A, MAT_FINAL_ASSEMBLY);
>     MatAssemblyEnd(A, MAT_FINAL_ASSEMBLY);
>     PetscLogEventEnd(Mat_assemble_event, 0, 0, 0, 0);
>     PetscLogEventEnd(Mat_setAsse_event, 0, 0, 0, 0);
> ----------------
>
>     And the output as follows. By the way, dose petsc recorde all time
> between PetscLogEventBegin and PetscLogEventEnd? or just test the time of
> petsc API?
>
>
>    It is all of the time.
>
> ----------------
> Event                Count      Time (sec)     Flop
>        --- Global ---  --- Stage ----  Total
>                    Max Ratio  *Max*     Ratio   Max  Ratio  Mess   AvgLen
>  Reduct  %T %F %M %L %R  %T %F %M %L %R Mflop/s
> 64new               1 1.0 *2.3775e+02* 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 6.2e+03 2.3e+04
> 9.0e+00 52  0  1  1  2  52  0  1  1  2     0
> 128new              1 1.0* 6.9945e+01* 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 2.5e+04 1.1e+04
> 9.0e+00 30  0  1  1  2  30  0  1  1  2     0
> 256new              1 1.0 *1.7445e+01* 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 9.9e+04 5.2e+03
> 9.0e+00 10  0  1  1  2  10  0  1  1  2     0
>
> 64:
> only assemble       1 1.0 *2.6596e+02 *1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 7.0e+03 2.8e+05
> 1.1e+01 55  0  1  8  3  55  0  1  8  3     0
> only setvalues      1 1.0 *1.9987e+02* 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 0.0e+00 0.0e+00
> 0.0e+00 41  0  0  0  0  41  0  0  0  0     0
> Test both           1 1.0 4.*6580e+02* 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 7.0e+03 2.8e+05
> 1.5e+01 96  0  1  8  4  96  0  1  8  4     0
>
> 128:
>  only assemble      1 1.0 *6.9718e+01* 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 2.6e+04 8.1e+04
> 1.1e+01 30  0  1  4  3  30  0  1  4  3     0
> only setvalues      1 1.0 *1.4438e+02* 1.1 0.00e+00 0.0 0.0e+00 0.0e+00
> 0.0e+00 60  0  0  0  0  60  0  0  0  0     0
> Test both           1 1.0 *2.1417e+02* 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 2.6e+04 8.1e+04
> 1.5e+01 91  0  1  4  4  91  0  1  4  4     0
>
> 256:
> only assemble       1 1.0 *1.7482e+01* 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 1.0e+05 2.3e+04
> 1.1e+01 10  0  1  3  3  10  0  1  3  3     0
> only setvalues      1 1.0 *1.3717e+02* 1.1 0.00e+00 0.0 0.0e+00 0.0e+00
> 0.0e+00 78  0  0  0  0  78  0  0  0  0     0
> Test both           1 1.0 *1.5475e+02* 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 1.0e+05 2.3e+04
> 1.5e+01 91  0  1  3  4  91  0  1  3  4     0
>
>
>
> Runfeng
>
> Barry Smith <bsmith at petsc.dev> 于2023年6月30日周五 23:35写道:
>
>>
>>    You cannot look just at the VecAssemblyEnd() time, that will very
>> likely give the wrong impression of the total time it takes to put the
>> values in.
>>
>>    You need to register a new Event and put a PetscLogEvent() just before
>> you start generating the vector entries and calling VecSetValues() and put
>> the PetscLogEventEnd() just after the VecAssemblyEnd() this is the only way
>> to get an accurate accounting of the time.
>>
>>   Barry
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 30, 2023, at 11:21 AM, Runfeng Jin <jsfaraway at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > When I use PETSc build a sbaij matrix, I find a strange thing. When I
>> increase the number of processors, the assemble time become smaller. All
>> these are totally same matrix. The assemble time mainly arouse from message
>> passing, which because I use dynamic workload that it is random for which
>> elements are computed by which processor.
>> > But from instinct, if use more processors, then more possible that the
>> processor computes elements storing in other processors. But from the
>> output of log_view, It seems when use more processors, the processors
>> compute more elements storing in its local(infer from that, with more
>> processors, less total amount of passed messages).
>> >
>> > What could cause this happened? Thank you!
>> >
>> >
>> >  Following is the output of log_view for 64\128\256 processors. Every
>> row is time profiler of VecAssemblyEnd.
>> >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > processors                Count                      Time (sec)
>>                               Flop
>>                      --- Global ---                               --- Stage
>> ----                Total
>> >                               Max    Ratio         Max
>> Ratio                 Max  Ratio      Mess        AvgLen         Reduct
>>            %T %F %M %L %R         %T %F %M %L %R       Mflop/s
>> > 64                            1     1.0            2.3775e+02      1.0
>>                  0.00e+00 0.0      6.2e+03    2.3e+04     9.0e+00
>>        52  0      1    1    2             52   0    1      1     2
>>    0
>> > 128                          1     1.0            6.9945e+01      1.0
>>                  0.00e+00 0.0      2.5e+04    1.1e+04     9.0e+00
>>       30   0      1     1  2              30   0    1       1    2
>>    0
>> > 256                          1     1.0           1.7445e+01        1.0
>>                 0.00e+00 0.0      9.9e+04     5.2e+03    9.0e+00
>>     10   0      1     1  2              10   0    1        1   2
>>  0
>> >
>> > Runfeng Jin
>>
>>
>
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