[Nek5000-users] Lagrangian particle tracking

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Fri Dec 13 11:09:04 CST 2013


    Hi Paul,
    It helped a lot. But let me insist on the question of accuracy. If the
problem is well resolved (and spectrally accurate) then the divergence
error could matter. No?
    I am interested to simulate turbulent flows so, this is the reason why
I am concerning about this issue.
    Thanks again and have a nice weekend.
    Barak

    Quoting nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov:
> Hi Barak,
>
>   I have just a bit of time but will try to give you some quick  
> answers to start.
>
>   Interpolation is spectral.
>
>   Decreasing div error simply sets the iteration tolerance tighter ---
>   meaning that the _discrete_ system is solved to a tighter tolerance
>   (i.e., closer to machine precision).   However, it does not mean that
>   the divergence is necessarily smaller, since there is also a discretization
>   error associated with the fact that you are solving the discretized problem
>   and not the continuous one.   Discretization error can be reduced by
>   increasing lx1 or the number of elements.
>
>   If your problem is nondimensionalized in terms of convective timescales,
>   I find div=1.e-6 is generally adequate (except, say, for certain
>   stability problems, which tend to be very sensitive).  If you are working
>   in physical units, I would suggest set div=0 and tolrel = 0.01 ---- this
>   will automatically choose tolerances for you.  (It tends to be a bit more
>   conservative than the 1.e-6 value that I suggest above.)
>
>   There is a moving boundary example in the peristaltic flow example (/peris)
>   At present, I don't have any falling body examples.  Such a case is either
>   easy or very hard, depending on the flow domain.
>
>   hth,
>
>   Paul
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov
>   To: nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov
>   Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 3:44:49 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Nek5000-users] Lagrangian particle tracking
>
>   Hi Katherine,
>
>   I reinstalled the new version (981) and indeed the code is running. I am
>   going to check now the results.
>
>   In previous messages I asked:
>   1. Is the used interpolation spectral?
>   2. When I decrease the desired divergence error, how does it increase
>   the computation time?
>   3. Are there examples for moving solid bodies or boundaries?
>
>   Many thanks.
>   Barak
>
>   On 12/12/2013 10:14 PM, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov wrote:  > Hi Barak,
>>
>>    I believe your error is a result of a compiler specific update.  I have
>>    updated the Nek source code to hopefully address this issue.  Please
>>    update your code and let me know if the problem is not resolved.
>>
>>    Thanks
>>    Katherine
>>
>>
>>    On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM, <nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov
>>    <mailto:nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov>> wrote:
>>
>>        Hei Paul,
>>        I tried your example and I get just at the beginning an error. See
>>        the attached file.
>>
>>        Thanks,
>>        Barak
>>
>>        On 12/11/2013 02:51 AM, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.__gov
>>        <mailto:nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>>
>>
>>            Hi,
>>
>>            I've added a Lagrangian particle tracking example ---
>>
>>                examples/hemi
>>
>>            look at hemi.usr.
>>
>>            It produces a sequence of files with particle positions and
>>            a matlab script is provided for viewing.  As soon as I have
>>            a chance I'll also develop a script for visit.
>>
>>            Paul
>>
>>
>>            ----- Original Message -----
>>            From: nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.__gov
>>            <mailto:nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov>
>>            To: nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.__gov
>>            <mailto:nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov>
>>            Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:25:19 PM
>>            Subject: Re: [Nek5000-users] Lagrangian particle tracking
>>
>>            On 12/10/2013 03:27 PM, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.__gov
>>            <mailto:nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>>
>>                Le 10/12/2013 13:00, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.__gov
>>                <mailto:nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov> a écrit
>>
>>
>>
>>                Hello,
>>
>>                    What do you want to known about Lagrangian Particle
>>                Tracking ?
>>
>>
>>
>>            Hi Anne,
>>            I would like to perform some Lagrangian particle simulation to to
>>            compute the component of the velocity field or vorticity at the
>>            particle. Do you have example for such computation as described
>>            in the
>>            webpage:
>>            http://nek5000.mcs.anl.gov/__index.php/Data_processing___example
>>            <http://nek5000.mcs.anl.gov/index.php/Data_processing_example>
>>            Thanks,
>>
>>            Barak
>>
>>
>>                Anne Tanière
>>
>>
>>                    Hi
>>                    I am interested to know if there is an example for the
>>                    Lagrangian
>>                    particle tracking
>>                    as described in
>>                     
>> http://nek5000.mcs.anl.gov/__index.php/Data_processing___example
>>                     
>> <http://nek5000.mcs.anl.gov/index.php/Data_processing_example>
>>                    .
>>
>>                    Thanks,
>>                    Barak Galanti
>>
>>
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