[POOL] Fwd: Argonne Pool League PROPOSED CHANGES

[Ti Leggett]

It seems all of the proposed changes are in favor of higher handicap  
players (except for the 8-ball rules which seem un-biased). In fact,  
I would say that if they were to implement 1, 2, and 3 that higher  
handicap players would need to win even more games than they  
currently do against lower handicaps, not less. It seems to me that  
match length problems aren't from low/low handicap matches because  
the number of matches is usually a 2-2, 3-2, or 3-3; or high/low  
handicap matches even the 10-1 onese because usually the high  
handicap person quickly finishes those games or loses quickly. The  
problem is for mid/mid, mid/high, or high/high handicap matches  
because these are usually at least a 5-3 and match, and players tend  
to play more of the games, usually slowly because games are so close.  
However I don't see a way that could address that problem without  
screwing low handicap players.

If they want to adjust the number of matches, I'd just say first to 3  
wins with some formula for distributing points based on how many  
games a team wins. Like a team gets one point for each match win and  
2 points for winning the night or something. I would hazard most  
matches would end in 3-0 or 3-1 takes with far fewer resulting in  
3-2. Meaning most teams would play 3 or 4 matches on average and for  
those thad do play a 5th they can take the table of one of the teams  
that finished in 3 or 4.

So to sum up my opinion, don't change the match rules, but change the  
win rules.

On Sep 4, 2007, at 10:30 PM, Craig Stacey wrote:

> Send me your thoughts on the rule changes and proposals below.   
> I'll respond to Kevin tomorrow.  Note that if we reduce to 4  
> matches, league income will fall accordingly unless we raise the  
> per match fee.
>
> As for the rule changes, I don't like any of them.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> There are some issues pertaining to the upcoming season that need  
>> to be considered before we start.  Some rule changes have been  
>> proposed.  Also, finding a solution to the late, late matches is  
>> important.  There are a few ideas that have been put forward.  I  
>> would like to hear what everyone has to say about the matter.   
>> And, I think that the teams should vote on each item proposed.
>>
>> I would ask that if there is discussion for any issue, please  
>> REPLY ALL to this message.  For actual VOTING people can reply to  
>> everyone, or to just me if they wish to keep their vote private.
>>
>> First, the following rule changes have been proposed:
>>
>> 1) Call-shot vs. slop-shot.
>> 2) Because of 1), there are called safeties.
>> 3) The table is always open after the break.
>> 4) 8-ball on the break is *not* a win.
>> 5) Scratching on the 8-ball is *not* a loss if the 8-ball is not  
>> pocketed.
>>
>> These are the rules from the World Pool-Billiard Association.  The  
>> main difference between WPA and what we currently use are as  
>> above.  (http://www.wpa-pool.com/index.asp?content=rules_8ball)   
>> It is also proposed that we put these rules into effect for a  
>> period of time (say, four weeks) to evaluate them before deciding  
>> if people like them, or want to continue on with our current rules.
>>
>> Second, a change in the matchup charge has been proposed:
>>
>> Chart-4  up to 39   [same as before]
>> Chart-6  40-59
>> Chart-8  60-79
>> Chart-10 80-109
>> Chart-12 110-up
>>
>> This will have the effect of reducing the number of games played  
>> per match.  It is thought that if we reduce the number of games  
>> per match by approximately 2, this will save as much as 60 - 90  
>> minutes in the evening.  This will mean that the matches will get  
>> over quicker and we will not have to reduce their number.
>>
>> Third, barring the idea previously proposed, it has been suggested  
>> that we reduce the number of matches played in an evening from 5  
>> to 4.  This will certainly cut short the evening, but it leaves a  
>> situation where there is no clear cut winner for the evening.
>>
>> Please feel free to comment upon any, or all, of these issues.  We  
>> have two weeks to get things in order.  Please talk with your team  
>> members and find out how they feel about this.
>>
>> Thanks for your time,
>>
>> Kevin
>
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> Craig
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