[Swift-devel] Cant get auto-coasters to run from midway to beagle

Michael Wilde wilde at mcs.anl.gov
Sat Mar 9 17:49:41 CST 2013


An update on this provider staging related issue: reducing filesize from 17MB to 600KB runs well.

So seems like some kind of flow control or buffer management problem, possibly?

May need to take that problem offline - would be a perfect test case for Yadu to develop a new stress test for.

- Mike


----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:21:49 PM
Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk

OK, much better: with 600K files (5x5 reduction or 25X smaller) it works well, and fast (form midway to beagle!)

Swift 0.94RC4 swift-r6284 cog-r3607 (cog modified locally)

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+ mv /home/wilde/.swift/runs/current/run029.1362871183 /home/wilde/.swift/runs/completed
midway001$ 



----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> 
> 
> Yep - I had a version where the input files were in a very similar
> format (PGM, 1 byte per pixel). I'll add that back, but without the
> small PGM header in the files.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:04:43 PM
> Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> 
> I think we need to cut down the size of these files for a demo
> (although they are great for a stress test).
> 
> First, the RGB format by itself uses 3 bytes per pixel when it only
> needs one (for land use)
> 
> Second, we should cut down by a factor of 9 (3x3) or 16 (4x4).
> 
> I tried that using simple convert statements, but it always seems to
> yield a file exactly double what it should be.
> 
> More on this later; was hoping to get things working "as is" first.
> 
> I assume you could get the perl code to work on one-byte-per-pixel
> instead of the default 3 for the convert rgb format?
> 
> - Mike
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 4:36:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > 
> > 
> > That would probably be a good idea for a new script, to show how to
> > stage apps like that. For now I updated the scripts on lustre..
> > hopefully that helps.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > 
> > 
> > From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 4:29:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > 
> > OK, I see that its trying to run getlanduse.sh from your /lustre
> > dir
> > on beagle, which is different than the one Ive got checked out. It
> > seems to get an error in a stderr redirect??? Let me se what I need
> > to do to get the beagle side in sync.
> > 
> > Seems like since these are perl scripts, we should make the app()
> > /bin/sh and send the script as data, perhaps?
> > 
> > - Mike
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 4:19:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > 
> > > OK, making progress. Now I dialed down the throttle and node
> > > counts
> > > to 48 jobs.
> > > 
> > > Now I get further, for ./demo and site=4 script=2:
> > > 
> > > RunID: 20130309-2214-1oi3rvea
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:14:06 +0000
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:14:17 +0000 Selecting
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> > > Submitting:47 Submitted:1
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> > > Stage in:1 Submitted:47
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:14:28 +0000 Selecting
> > > site:269
> > > Stage in:25 Submitted:23
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:14:36 +0000 Selecting
> > > site:269
> > > Stage in:48
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:15:06 +0000 Selecting
> > > site:269
> > > Stage in:48
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:15:36 +0000 Selecting
> > > site:269
> > > Stage in:48
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:16:06 +0000 Selecting
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> > > Stage in:48
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:16:26 +0000 Selecting
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> > > Stage in:47 Active:1
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:16:27 +0000 Selecting
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> > > Stage in:36 Active:12
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> > > Stage in:24 Active:24
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:16:34 +0000 Selecting
> > > site:269
> > > Stage in:24 Active:23 Stage out:1
> > > Progress: time: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:16:35 +0000 Selecting
> > > site:269
> > > Stage in:14 Active:33 Stage out:1
> > > Execution failed:
> > > Exception in getlanduse:
> > > Arguments:
> > > [home/wilde/osgdemo/modis/svn/data/modis/2002/h08v04.rgb]
> > > Host: beagle
> > > Directory:
> > > modis02-20130309-2214-1oi3rvea/jobs/k/getlanduse-ko5qjd6l
> > > 
> > > Caused by:
> > > Application /lustre/beagle/davidk/modis/bin/getlanduse.sh failed
> > > with an exit code of 1
> > > getLandUse, modis02.swift, line 20
> > > 
> > > real 2m31.463s
> > > user 1m33.238s
> > > sys 0m2.160s
> > > + mv /home/wilde/.swift/runs/current/run024.1362867244
> > > /home/wilde/.swift/runs/completed
> > > midway001$
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:55:30 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ok, I'll take a look at that. The run dir I used was
> > > > /scratch/midway/davidkelly999/modis/run011
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:52:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > 
> > > > I just tried this, but didnt work - same prob.
> > > > 
> > > > But if its working for you now, we must be close.
> > > > 
> > > > Not yet sure what the diff is...
> > > > 
> > > > My run dir is /home/wilde/osgdemo/modis/svn/run021
> > > > 
> > > > - Mike
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:46:13 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Had to make sure I was using the IP address on eth4
> > > > > (128.135.112.71
> > > > > for midway-login1), not a local address or an infiniband
> > > > > address.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:43:51 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I just got it working. I had to adjust for the differences in
> > > > > my
> > > > > username on Beagle/Midway, then I had to set GLOBUS_HOSTNAME
> > > > > on
> > > > > Midway to the IP address, rather than the full hostname
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:40:03 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > > To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:34:58 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is your username the same on beagle and midway?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes. And I verified that I can ssh to login4 on beagle from
> > > > > my
> > > > > midway
> > > > > session (as indeed the scp's of the proxy files seem to be
> > > > > working)
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Mike
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > > To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:34:28 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ignore what I said about "problem finding java" - thats
> > > > > > code
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > very long escaped shell command that gets sent to the
> > > > > > remote
> > > > > > side.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > dont *think* thats the problem.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also verified that beagle can connect to ports 50001 etc
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > swift.rcc, and that seems OK.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I exported GLOBUS_HOSTNAME=midway001.rcc.uchicago.edu on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > midway
> > > > > > side. And the beagle side seems to be connecting there.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Im a bit confused about the timestamps I see for the proxy
> > > > > > expiration
> > > > > > time, but am not yet suspicious of that (although it seems
> > > > > > less
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > 5 hours past GMT... not sure.)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > - Mike
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > > > To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:26:32 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm seeing the same error now.. looking into it
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > > > To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:21:30 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Looking deeper I see that the logs show problems with
> > > > > > > finding
> > > > > > > Java,
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > assume on beagle, ans also service ending (presumably
> > > > > > > coaster
> > > > > > > service on midway host).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'll dig into these two.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I see that it scp's the proxies to beagle which I think
> > > > > > > answers
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > question about security.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - Mike
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > > > > To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:15:01 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > OK. Any thoughts about beagle?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Ive been experimenting but still cant get it to work,
> > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > error
> > > > > > > > (cant connect to bootstrap port)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > WHen you tried ssh-cl to beagle with automatic
> > > > > > > > coasters,
> > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > configuration (sites env etc) did you use?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I verified that beagle can connect back to the midway
> > > > > > > > hosts
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > ports.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Do we need to specify security or create a proxy etc?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > - Mike
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > > > > > To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:08:58 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > One way you can override/customize the default
> > > > > > > > > templates
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > create
> > > > > > > > > them in $HOME/.swift/sites (I'm not sure if that's
> > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > mean
> > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > a local sites dir or not). But you are right about
> > > > > > > > > Midway
> > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > noticed that when using modis it will sometimes get
> > > > > > > > > stuck
> > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > goes to a queue that is busy. Ideally swift
> > > > > > > > > replication
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > able to help better handle that, but I haven't had
> > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > luck
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > that yet. Another way around this may be to add this
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > template:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > <profile namespace="globus"
> > > > > > > > > key="slurm.exclusive">false</profile>
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The swift.log issue was never fixed. It went to
> > > > > > > > > swift-devel
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > discussion but was never fixed. I think it is
> > > > > > > > > relatively
> > > > > > > > > simple
> > > > > > > > > though.. probably worth fixing before release.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > > > > > To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 1:38:47 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > OK, sounds good re the trip plan. Feel free to stay
> > > > > > > > > Tue
> > > > > > > > > night
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > avoid a 4hr drive after a long day.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Im trying the modis demo.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I tried to create a local sites/ dir so I can modify
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > sites
> > > > > > > > > templates; thats not working for me either yet.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > For midway, need to force to westmere or sandyb (but
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > both)
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > ensure 1-node jobs, because either queue can get
> > > > > > > > > filled
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > yield an idle node for a long time. maybe need to
> > > > > > > > > fiddle
> > > > > > > > > jobsPerNode
> > > > > > > > > to get at least 1 core when the system is busy and
> > > > > > > > > *pretend*
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > its a node.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > So to get response I tried beagle-ssh; That isnt
> > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > template sites file is wrong in swift 0.94 rc4.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I also see that swift.log is still getting produced -
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > eliminated that. Did it come back due to a problem
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > fix?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'll keep hacking; suggestions welcome.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > - Mike
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > > > > > > To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 12:20:00 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Looking more closely at the agenda, I think the
> > > > > > > > > > most
> > > > > > > > > > interesting/useful talks will be on Tuesday. Monday
> > > > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > Argonne to work on any loose ends and put the
> > > > > > > > > > finishing
> > > > > > > > > > touches
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > any slides/runs/scripts, then drive to Indianapolis
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > Monday
> > > > > > > > > > afternoon/evening. I have a hotel booked for Monday
> > > > > > > > > > night.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I'll do some runs using the routes we talked about.
> > > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > have working configurations for everything we
> > > > > > > > > > talked
> > > > > > > > > > about,
> > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > think it's really just a matter of plugging in the
> > > > > > > > > > apps.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > > > > > > To: "David Kelly" <davidk at ci.uchicago.edu>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 11:03:15 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: runs for OSG talk
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hi David,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to let you know that Im looking into
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > > > options
> > > > > > > > > > now. Im hoping to try a few... WIll see how much
> > > > > > > > > > help
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > need.
> > > > > > > > > > Have
> > > > > > > > > > you decided on a driving time and made hotel
> > > > > > > > > > arrangements?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I would feel free to stay for whatever portion of
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > OSG
> > > > > > > > > > meeting
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > feel is of value. The only thing I ask is that for
> > > > > > > > > > Wed
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > Thu
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > stay available online for user-support or other
> > > > > > > > > > assistance
> > > > > > > > > > needs
> > > > > > > > > > that come up here. And that you engage with people
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > help
> > > > > > > > > > us
> > > > > > > > > > develop the Swift user community and reliable OSG
> > > > > > > > > > usage.
> > > > > > > > > > Rob,
> > > > > > > > > > Marco,
> > > > > > > > > > Lincoln, and Suchandra would be good to hang out
> > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > introduce you to good contacts.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Of course we will cover your expenses via a
> > > > > > > > > > UChicago
> > > > > > > > > > travel
> > > > > > > > > > expense
> > > > > > > > > > report.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > We'll be starting a project with a tiny bit of
> > > > > > > > > > additional
> > > > > > > > > > ExTENCI
> > > > > > > > > > funds to make Swift do smarter data management on
> > > > > > > > > > OSG
> > > > > > > > > > sites
> > > > > > > > > > (and
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > general) so anything you learn about OSG storage
> > > > > > > > > > elements/services/tools will be valuable for that
> > > > > > > > > > (srmcp,
> > > > > > > > > > lcgcp,
> > > > > > > > > > etc).
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Between now and your talk, lets just focus on the
> > > > > > > > > > talk,
> > > > > > > > > > OK?
> > > > > > > > > > Im
> > > > > > > > > > hoping
> > > > > > > > > > we have slides frozen by Monday.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > While I fiddle, if you could do catsn or other
> > > > > > > > > > hello-world-like
> > > > > > > > > > tests
> > > > > > > > > > to cover the "routes" we discussed, that would pave
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > plugging in the real app examples.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Sound good? Let me know of any concerns (other than
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > this is a tad rushed ;)
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > - Mike
> > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > Michael Wilde
> > > > > > > > > > Computation Institute, University of Chicago
> > > > > > > > > > Mathematics and Computer Science Division
> > > > > > > > > > Argonne National Laboratory
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