[Swift-devel] CDM Tests

Michael Wilde wilde at mcs.anl.gov
Mon Nov 14 13:46:33 CST 2011


Ketan, in these tests, I thought that the names that the app actually receives on its command line is worth documenting. Does that show anything that the script writer should be aware of?

- Mike

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> To: "Ketan Maheshwari" <ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Swift Devel" <swift-devel at ci.uchicago.edu>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:39:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] CDM Tests
> Even though the tests worked in each of these 4 cases, the question
> remains of "did the app see the same path names" and "did copies get
> done"?
> 
> So I think you need to dig deeper and explain the difference between
> what CDM does for the direct case, and how (if at all) the wrapper
> mode affects things.
> 
> Its equally possible that CDM overrode the wrapper mode arg. Just
> specifying the wrapper mode arg will not, I think, achieve the
> elimination of the "copy to shared workflow directory" that "direct
> mode" accomplishes.
> 
> - Mike
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ketan Maheshwari" <ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com>
> > To: "Michael Wilde" <wilde at mcs.anl.gov>
> > Cc: "Swift Devel" <swift-devel at ci.uchicago.edu>, "Justin M Wozniak"
> > <wozniak at mcs.anl.gov>
> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:29:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] CDM Tests
> > Mike,
> >
> >
> > In my initial email I said:
> >
> >
> > ... when specifying the relative option on the config for
> > wrapper.invocation.mode property the script works regardless of the
> > paths of input/output.
> >
> >
> > Which made me conclude that the option specified in the config for
> > wrapper.invocation.mode property overrides the CDM policies.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Michael Wilde < wilde at mcs.anl.gov >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ketan,
> >
> > I thought your initial email stated that the 4 cases of relative
> > path
> > names "worked". But this latter comment indicates that there is some
> > kind of problem even in the relative cases.
> >
> > Can you clarify?
> >
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ketan Maheshwari" < ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com >
> >
> >
> >
> > > To: "Justin M Wozniak" < wozniak at mcs.anl.gov >
> > > Cc: "Michael Wilde" < wilde at mcs.anl.gov >, "Swift Devel" <
> > > swift-devel at ci.uchicago.edu >
> > > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:01:35 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] CDM Tests
> > > Given the CDM's support for relative pathnames, I would expect the
> > > case of relative inputs, relative outputs would succeed
> > > irrespective
> > > of config. However, from the tests, it seems that the config
> > > option
> > > is
> > > overriding CDM directives.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Justin M Wozniak <
> > > wozniak at mcs.anl.gov > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > CDM DIRECT does not currently support absolute path names. I think
> > > we
> > > could provide something simple like "" for the field, as you
> > > suggest.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Michael Wilde wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would expect that for absolute path mappings, the user would
> > > > specify
> > > > either :: or "/" as the path in the CDM DIRECT pattern. In other
> > > > words,
> > > > the user is saying "I have mapped the object to an absolute path
> > > > name,
> > > > and I want the app to get exactly this name". Hence I think that
> > > > the
> > > > best "location" field for a DIRECT rule is null ("").
> > > >
> > > > Justin, can you clarify what the code expects for this case?
> > > >
> > > > - Mike
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Jonathan Monette" < jonmon at mcs.anl.gov >
> > > >> To: "Michael Wilde" < wilde at mcs.anl.gov >
> > > >> Cc: "Ketan Maheshwari" < ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com >, "Swift
> > > >> Devel" < swift-devel at ci.uchicago.edu >
> > > >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:13:01 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] CDM Tests
> > > >> I couldn't tell from the excel(using my phone) but what was
> > > >> absolute?
> > > >> If I am not mistaken what CDM does is takes the path that is
> > > >> specified
> > > >> in the CDM file(which should be absolute) and appends the file
> > > >> path
> > > >> that is used in the swift script to it(which should be
> > > >> relative).
> > > >> So
> > > >> if they are both absolute I would expect it to fail.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Michael Wilde < wilde at mcs.anl.gov
> > > >> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks, Ketan - very nice tests and summary document.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I should point out for those that didn't open the doc: the 4
> > > >>> tests
> > > >>> with absolute pathnames are failing.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ketan, can you work with Justin to see if this is a bug, or if
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> CDM directive needs to be coded differently for absolute
> > > >>> paths?
> > > >>> Then
> > > >>> please test a fix, and as we discussed adapt the tests with
> > > >>> annotations to enhance the User Guide section on CDM.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Mike
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>> From: "Ketan Maheshwari" < ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com >
> > > >>>> To: "Swift Devel" < swift-devel at ci.uchicago.edu >
> > > >>>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 8:13:48 AM
> > > >>>> Subject: [Swift-devel] CDM Tests
> > > >>>> Hello,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I had a discussion with Mike about testing the CDM behavior
> > > >>>> for
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> following cases:
> > > >>>> 1. full versus relative paths for input
> > > >>>> 2. full versus relative paths for output
> > > >>>> 3. relative versus absolute option in config property:
> > > >>>> wrapper.invocation.mode
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> In this regard, I made 8 tests for all the above
> > > >>>> combinations.
> > > >>>> I
> > > >>>> used
> > > >>>> simple local provider in this first set of tests.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> From the tests it seems that when specifying the relative
> > > >>>> option
> > > >>>> on
> > > >>>> the config for wrapper.invocation.mode property the script
> > > >>>> works
> > > >>>> regardless of the paths of input/output.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> A detailed result with stdout, and paths to logs can be found
> > > >>>> here:
> > > >>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmvYSwENKFY9dG44V2VjRXJlUmZLNG9saERFeWZDcUE
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The tests are in my CI dir: /home/ketan/cdm_tests
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Regards, --
> > > >>>> Ketan
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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> > > >>> Michael Wilde
> > > >>> Computation Institute, University of Chicago
> > > >>> Mathematics and Computer Science Division
> > > >>> Argonne National Laboratory
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> > > Justin M Wozniak
> > >
> > >
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> > > Ketan
> >
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> > Michael Wilde
> > Computation Institute, University of Chicago
> > Mathematics and Computer Science Division
> > Argonne National Laboratory
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ketan
> 
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> Michael Wilde
> Computation Institute, University of Chicago
> Mathematics and Computer Science Division
> Argonne National Laboratory
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