[Swift-devel] Provenance use case

[Michael Wilde]

Thoughts and comments on this:

Ive stressed the need for log collection to every group I work with, 
long hard and often, but making it happen is slow and makes little sense 
till the user is really up and running, which takes huge effort and 
comes first.

Ive used on occasion a personal "swiftrun" command that bundled log 
reporting (and run-directory conventions and cleanup) with swift execution.

Ive never had time to polish that for general use, but recently placed 
these tools under svn so we could start doing soon.

Regarding specific users, the main ones we can work with this on at the 
moment are the OOPS and PtMap groups. These two groups are just now 
nearing the point where their runs will worth saving. Runs to date have 
been mostly in the learning category.

Putting all logs in a central repo is OK for now. Someday we'll want to 
have per-collaboration repositories. Ideally we should place the central 
one under a ~swift dir rather than ~benc - it sounds to users more 
official and less than a personal project.

So bottom line: its happening but takes time.

On 3/28/09 6:32 AM, Ben Clifford wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Ian Foster wrote:
> 
>> Would it be good to (re)start the practice of storing every run log? 
>> Having information on all Swift runs performed will be very useful for 
>> when we request additional funding.
> 
> I see run logs from recent days in /disks/ci-gpfs/swift/swift-logs so some 
> people are definitely doing this still (and have been for some time).
> 
> Swift developers can't really force application people to play along 
> though.
>