[Swift-devel] Planning next set of Swift features and releases

[Ian Foster]

If no-one is using these things, then perhaps we should not be doing  
them.

I myself think they are really important, and so hope that we would  
instead get people to use them. But if Mike can't get people to use  
them, then maybe we decide they are unimportant.

On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:55 AM, Ben Clifford wrote:

>> Provenance
>>
>> - make it end-user useful and ready
>> - easy to get perf numbers
>> - easy to associate swift parameters with files and runs
>
> yes.
>
> (the rest of this paragraph is a rant) I am fairly happy with the  
> ongoing
> development of this at the moment for PC3. However, there has been a
> consistent lack of feedback for the provenance work. I attribute no  
> blame
> on any person for this, but it is the case that no on aside from  
> Luiz has
> spent a significant amount of time working with the provenance code  
> over
> the 16 months that it has been in the SVN. People throw in plenty of
> feature requests, some of which already exist, and then make no use of
> them. If other people in the group do not test out features in the
> provenance code properly (i.e. more than spending one hour every  
> month)
> then people cannot complain when the features do not work how they  
> want.
> The same applies to the log processing graphs - people need to come up
> with concrete technical criticisms rather than vague "please make it
> better"