[Swift-devel] Clustering and Temp Dirs with Swift

Andrew Robert Jamieson andrewj at uchicago.edu
Fri Oct 26 14:58:46 CDT 2007


I am kind of at a stand still for getting anything done on TP right now 
with this problem. Are there any suggestions to overcome this for the time 
being?

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Andrew Robert Jamieson wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>  I am encountering the following problem on Teraport.  I submit a clustered 
> swift WF which should amount to something on the order of 850x3 individual 
> jobs total. I have clustered the jobs because they are very fast (somewhere 
> around 20 sec to 1 min long).  When I submit the WF on TP things start out 
> fantastic, I get 10s of output files in a matter of seconds and nodes would 
> start and finish clustered batches in a matter of minutes or less. However, 
> after waiting about 3-5 mins, when clustered jobs are begin to line up in the 
> queue and more start running at the same time, things start to slow down to a 
> trickle in terms of output.
>
> One thing I noticed is when I try a simply ls on TP in the swift temp running 
> directory where the temp job dirs are created and destroyed, it take a very 
> long time.  And when it is done only five or so things are in the dir. (this 
> is the dir with "info  kickstart  shared  status wrapper.log" in it).  What I 
> think is happening is that TP's filesystem cant handle this extremely rapid 
> creation/destruction of directories in that shared location. From what I have 
> been told these temp dirs come and go as long as the job runs successfully.
>
> What I am wondering is if there is anyway to move that dir to the local node 
> tmp diretory not the shared file system, while it is running and if something 
> fails then have it sent to the appropriate place.
>
> Or, if another layer of temp dir wrapping could be applied with labeld 
> perhaps with respect to the clustered job grouping and not simply the 
> individual jobs (since there are thousands being computed at once).
> That these things would only be generated/deleted every 5 mins or 10 mins (if 
> clustered properly on my part) instead of one event every milli second or 
> what have you.
>
> I don't know which solution is feasible or if any are at all, but this seems 
> to be a major problem for my WFs.  In general it is never good to have a 
> million things coming and going on a shared file system in one place, from my 
> experience at least.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
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