[petsc-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: Is there anything like a "DMPlexSetCones()" ?

Ferrand, Jesus A. FERRANJ2 at my.erau.edu
Wed May 1 19:23:33 CDT 2024


Matt:

My bad again, I need to clarify something that I just realized doesn't make sense.
I said: "The nature of the I/O makes it so that I need to read the connectivity before I get a semblance of buffer sizes."
Scratch that, obviously, if I can read the connectivity, I know the buffer sizes.

What I should have said is that I cannot know the "chart" that one sets in DMPlexSetChart() a priori like in most cases.
I need to determine the chart from the connectivity lists.

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From: Ferrand, Jesus A. <FERRANJ2 at my.erau.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 8:17 PM
To: Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [petsc-users] Is there anything like a "DMPlexSetCones()" ?

Matt:

"I do not understand the "flag check". What is that?"

      My bad, I should have referred to the "dm->setupcalled".
      I believe this PetscBool is checked by the other DM (not just DMPlex) APIs.
      The subsequent checks for dm->setupcalled == PETSC_TRUE is what I meant to say.
      Here's a copy of DMSetUp().

PetscErrorCode<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/Sys/PetscErrorCode/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIvmDOx14$ > DMSetUp<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/DM/DMSetUp/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIOSy-UaQ$ >(DM<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/DM/DM/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIQUtSyT4$ > dm)
817: {
818:   PetscFunctionBegin<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/Sys/PetscFunctionBegin/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIthWKl2Y$ >;
820:   if (dm->setupcalled) PetscFunctionReturn<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/Sys/PetscFunctionReturn/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIA9zrkn4$ >(PETSC_SUCCESS<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/Sys/PetscErrorCode/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIvmDOx14$ >);
821:   PetscTryTypeMethod<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/Sys/PetscTryTypeMethod/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIFSJZYG4$ >(dm, setup);
822:   dm->setupcalled = PETSC_TRUE<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/Sys/PETSC_TRUE/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIQcJ2U-8$ >;
823:   PetscFunctionReturn<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/Sys/PetscFunctionReturn/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIA9zrkn4$ >(PETSC_SUCCESS<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manualpages/Sys/PetscErrorCode/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Y59qV_AfccorvDZ2Ux5zlODn2plUGK9DDK2MadlAOvbh7uPhFCvfhWkUgJ_4ncaI6RxBeDbsKAPuyB-H6hOIvmDOx14$ >);
824: }

"We could make a DMPlexSetCones(), but as you point out, the workflow for DMSetUp() would have to change. Where does the memory come from for your connectivity?"
      It's a memory that I myself allocate based on a file's contents.
      The nature of the I/O makes it so that I need to read the connectivity before I get a semblance of buffer sizes.
      Otherwise, I would stick to the tried and tested way.

Also, when replying to the PETSc developers, users must reply to petsc-users at mcs.anl.gov and not just to the individual email accounts of the developers, right?




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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [petsc-users] Is there anything like a "DMPlexSetCones()" ?

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Dear PETSc team:

For a project that I'm working on, I need to manually build a DMPlex.
>From studying the source code of the various APIs in which the plex is built from some supported file format, I get that the workflow is this:


  1.
DMPlexSetChart() <-- Input nCells + nVerts
  2.
DMPlexSetConeSize() <-- Input ConeSize for each point in [0,nCells)
  3.
DMSetUp() – Allocates memory internally.
  4.
DMPlexGetCones() --> Gives you the memory onto which to write the cell connectivity.
  5.
*Write connectivity*
  6.
DMPlexReorderCell() <-- For each point in [0,nCells)

I'm in a situation where the memory given by step (4) is available a-priori.
I was hoping to skip steps 2, 3 , and 4 with something like a "DMPlexSetCones()", but such an API does not exist.
My current workaround is to implement steps 2 through 4 as always and have double the memory allocated in the interim (my instance + DM's internal instance).
I was thinking of looking for the name of the struct member and = it to my memory, but I can't overcome the flag check in DMSetUp() during later calls to DMPlexGetCones() or DMPlexGetTransitiveClosure().

I do not understand the "flag check". What is that?

We could make a DMPlexSetCones(), but as you point out, the workflow for DMSetUp() would have to change. Where does the memory come from for your connectivity?

  Thanks,

    Matt



Sincerely:

J.A. Ferrand

Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University - Daytona Beach - FL
Ph.D. Candidate, Aerospace Engineering

M.Sc. Aerospace Engineering

B.Sc. Aerospace Engineering

B.Sc. Computational Mathematics


Phone: (386)-843-1829

Email(s): ferranj2 at my.erau.edu<mailto:ferranj2 at my.erau.edu>

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From: Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 8:07 PM
To: Ferrand, Jesus A. <FERRANJ2 at my.erau.edu>
Cc: petsc-users at mcs.anl.gov <petsc-users at mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [petsc-users] Is there anything like a "DMPlexSetCones()" ?

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On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 3:34 PM Ferrand, Jesus A. <FERRANJ2 at my.erau.edu<mailto:FERRANJ2 at my.erau.edu>> wrote:
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Dear PETSc team:

For a project that I'm working on, I need to manually build a DMPlex.
>From studying the source code of the various APIs in which the plex is built from some supported file format, I get that the workflow is this:


  1.
DMPlexSetChart() <-- Input nCells + nVerts
  2.
DMPlexSetConeSize() <-- Input ConeSize for each point in [0,nCells)
  3.
DMSetUp() – Allocates memory internally.
  4.
DMPlexGetCones() --> Gives you the memory onto which to write the cell connectivity.
  5.
*Write connectivity*
  6.
DMPlexReorderCell() <-- For each point in [0,nCells)

I'm in a situation where the memory given by step (4) is available a-priori.
I was hoping to skip steps 2, 3 , and 4 with something like a "DMPlexSetCones()", but such an API does not exist.
My current workaround is to implement steps 2 through 4 as always and have double the memory allocated in the interim (my instance + DM's internal instance).
I was thinking of looking for the name of the struct member and = it to my memory, but I can't overcome the flag check in DMSetUp() during later calls to DMPlexGetCones() or DMPlexGetTransitiveClosure().

I do not understand the "flag check". What is that?

We could make a DMPlexSetCones(), but as you point out, the workflow for DMSetUp() would have to change. Where does the memory come from for your connectivity?

  Thanks,

    Matt



Sincerely:

J.A. Ferrand

Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University - Daytona Beach - FL
Ph.D. Candidate, Aerospace Engineering

M.Sc. Aerospace Engineering

B.Sc. Aerospace Engineering

B.Sc. Computational Mathematics


Phone: (386)-843-1829

Email(s): ferranj2 at my.erau.edu<mailto:ferranj2 at my.erau.edu>

    jesus.ferrand at gmail.com<mailto:jesus.ferrand at gmail.com>


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