[petsc-users] overlap cpu and gpu?

Mark Adams mfadams at lbl.gov
Mon Aug 17 11:10:42 CDT 2020


The eigen estimates are either very bad or the coarse grids have a problem.
Everything looks fine other than these bad estimates  that are >> 2.

* Are these matrices not symmetric? Maybe from BCs. THat is not usually a
problem, just checking.

* Are these stretched grids? If not you might try:
-ampere_pc_gamg_square_graph *10*

* GMRES is not a good estimator when you have SPD matrices, but it is
robust. You might try

*-*ampere_mg_levels_esteig_*ksp_monitor_singular_value*
-ampere_mg_levels_esteig_ksp_max_it *50*
-ampere_mg_levels_esteig_ksp_type *gmres*

* And why are you using:

-ampere_ksp_type dgmres

?
If your problems are SPD then CG is great.

Mark

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:33 AM nicola varini <nicola.varini at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Mark, this is the out of grep GAMG after I used -info:
> =======
> [0] PCSetUp_GAMG(): level 0) N=582736, n data rows=1, n data cols=1,
> nnz/row (ave)=9, np=12
> [0] PCGAMGFilterGraph():         97.9676% nnz after filtering, with
> threshold 0., 8.95768 nnz ave. (N=582736)
> [0] PCGAMGCoarsen_AGG(): Square Graph on level 1 of 1 to square
> [0] PCGAMGProlongator_AGG(): New grid 38934 nodes
> [0] PCGAMGOptProlongator_AGG(): Smooth P0: max eigen=2.101683e+00 min=4.341777e-03
> PC=jacobi
> [0] PCGAMGOptProlongator_AGG(): Smooth P0: level 0, cache spectra
> 0.00434178 2.10168
> [0] PCSetUp_GAMG(): 1) N=38934, n data cols=1, nnz/row (ave)=18, 12 active
> pes
> [0] PCGAMGFilterGraph():         97.024% nnz after filtering, with
> threshold 0., 17.9774 nnz ave. (N=38934)
> [0] PCGAMGProlongator_AGG(): New grid 4459 nodes
> [0] PCGAMGOptProlongator_AGG(): Smooth P0: max eigen=4.521607e+01
> min=5.854294e-01 PC=jacobi
> [0] PCGAMGOptProlongator_AGG(): Smooth P0: level 1, cache spectra 0.585429
> 45.2161
> [0] PCSetUp_GAMG(): 2) N=4459, n data cols=1, nnz/row (ave)=29, 12 active
> pes
> [0] PCGAMGFilterGraph():         99.6422% nnz after filtering, with
> threshold 0., 27.5481 nnz ave. (N=4459)
> [0] PCGAMGProlongator_AGG(): New grid 345 nodes
> [0] PCGAMGOptProlongator_AGG(): Smooth P0: max eigen=1.394069e+01 min=1.086973e-01
> PC=jacobi
> [0] PCGAMGOptProlongator_AGG(): Smooth P0: level 2, cache spectra 0.108697
> 13.9407
> [0] PCGAMGCreateLevel_GAMG(): Number of equations (loc) 29 with simple
> aggregation
> [0] PCSetUp_GAMG(): 3) N=345, n data cols=1, nnz/row (ave)=31, 6 active pes
> [0] PCGAMGFilterGraph():         99.6292% nnz after filtering, with
> threshold 0., 26.9667 nnz ave. (N=345)
> [0] PCGAMGProlongator_AGG(): New grid 26 nodes
> [0] PCGAMGOptProlongator_AGG(): Smooth P0: max eigen=1.463593e+02
> min=1.469384e-01 PC=jacobi
> [0] PCGAMGOptProlongator_AGG(): Smooth P0: level 3, cache spectra 0.146938
> 146.359
> [0] PCGAMGCreateLevel_GAMG(): Number of equations (loc) 5 with simple
> aggregation
> [0] PCSetUp_GAMG(): 4) N=26, n data cols=1, nnz/row (ave)=16, 1 active pes
> [0] PCSetUp_GAMG(): 5 levels, grid complexity = 1.16304
> PCGAMGGraph_AGG        4 1.0 8.4114e-02 1.0 1.02e+06 1.0 3.8e+02 1.3e+03
> 4.0e+01  0  0  0  0  0   0  0  0  0  0   145
> PCGAMGCoarse_AGG       4 1.0 3.2107e-01 1.0 9.43e+06 1.0 7.3e+02 1.1e+04
> 3.5e+01  0  0  0  0  0   0  0  0  0  0   351
> PCGAMGProl_AGG         4 1.0 2.8825e-02 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 3.5e+02 2.8e+03
> 6.4e+01  0  0  0  0  0   0  0  0  0  0     0
> PCGAMGPOpt_AGG         4 1.0 1.1570e-01 1.0 2.61e+07 1.0 1.2e+03 2.6e+03
> 1.6e+02  0  0  0  0  1   0  0  0  0  1  2692
> GAMG: createProl       4 1.0 5.5680e-01 1.0 3.64e+07 1.0 2.7e+03 4.6e+03
> 3.0e+02  0  0  0  0  1   0  0  0  0  1   784
> GAMG: partLevel        4 1.0 1.1628e-01 1.0 5.90e+06 1.0 1.1e+03 3.0e+03
> 1.6e+02  0  0  0  0  1   0  0  0  0  1   604
> ======
> Nicola
>
>
> Il giorno lun 17 ago 2020 alle ore 15:40 Mark Adams <mfadams at lbl.gov> ha
> scritto:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:24 AM nicola varini <nicola.varini at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mark, I do confirm that hypre with boomeramg is working fine and is
>>> pretty fast.
>>>
>>
>> Good, you can send me the -info (grep GAMG) output and I try to see what
>> is going on.
>>
>>
>>> However, none of the GAMG option works.
>>> Did anyone ever succeeded in usign hypre with petsc on gpu?
>>>
>>
>> We have gotten Hypre to run on GPUs but it has been fragile. The
>> performance has been marginal (due to use of USM apparently), but it is
>> being worked on by the hypre team.
>>
>> The cude tools are changing fast and I am guessing this is a different
>> version than what we have tested, perhaps. Maybe someone else can help with
>> this, but I know we use cuda 10.2 and you are using cuda tools 10.1.
>>
>> And you do want to use the most up-to-date PETSc.
>>
>>
>>> I did manage to compile hypre on gpu but I do get the following error:
>>> =======
>>>           CC gpuhypre/obj/vec/vec/impls/hypre/vhyp.o
>>> In file included from
>>> /opt/nvidia/cudatoolkit10/10.1.105_3.27-7.0.1.1_4.1__ga311ce7/include/thrust/detail/config.h:22,
>>>                  from
>>> /opt/nvidia/cudatoolkit10/10.1.105_3.27-7.0.1.1_4.1__ga311ce7/include/thrust/execution_policy.h:23,
>>>                  from
>>> /users/nvarini/hypre/include/_hypre_utilities.h:1129,
>>>                  from /users/nvarini/hypre/include/_hypre_IJ_mv.h:14,
>>>                  from
>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/include/../src/vec/vec/impls/hypre/vhyp.h:6,
>>>                  from
>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/vec/vec/impls/hypre/vhyp.c:7:
>>> /opt/nvidia/cudatoolkit10/10.1.105_3.27-7.0.1.1_4.1__ga311ce7/include/thrust/version.h:83:1:
>>> error: unknown type name 'namespace'
>>>  namespace thrust
>>>  ^~~~~~~~~
>>> /opt/nvidia/cudatoolkit10/10.1.105_3.27-7.0.1.1_4.1__ga311ce7/include/thrust/version.h:84:1:
>>> error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
>>>  {
>>>  ^
>>> In file included from
>>> /opt/nvidia/cudatoolkit10/10.1.105_3.27-7.0.1.1_4.1__ga311ce7/include/thrust/detail/config/config.h:28,
>>>                  from
>>> /opt/nvidia/cudatoolkit10/10.1.105_3.27-7.0.1.1_4.1__ga311ce7/include/thrust/detail/config.h:23,
>>>                  from
>>> /opt/nvidia/cudatoolkit10/10.1.105_3.27-7.0.1.1_4.1__ga311ce7/include/thrust/execution_policy.h:23,
>>>                  from
>>> /users/nvarini/hypre/include/_hypre_utilities.h:1129,
>>>                  from /users/nvarini/hypre/include/_hypre_IJ_mv.h:14,
>>>                  from
>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/include/../src/vec/vec/impls/hypre/vhyp.h:6,
>>>                  from
>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/vec/vec/impls/hypre/vhyp.c:7:
>>> /opt/nvidia/cudatoolkit10/10.1.105_3.27-7.0.1.1_4.1__ga311ce7/include/thrust/detail/config/cpp_compatibility.h:21:10:
>>> fatal error: cstddef: No such file or directory
>>>  #include <cstddef>
>>>           ^~~~~~~~~
>>> compilation terminated.
>>>
>>> =======
>>> Nicola
>>>
>>> Il giorno ven 14 ago 2020 alle ore 20:13 Mark Adams <mfadams at lbl.gov>
>>> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> You can try Hypre. If that fails then there is a problem with your
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> And you can run with -info and grep on GAMG and send the output and I
>>>> can see if I see anything funny.
>>>>
>>>> If this is just a Lapacian with a stable discretization and not crazy
>>>> material parameters then stretched grids are about the only thing that can
>>>> hurt the solver.
>>>>
>>>> Do both of your solves fail in a similar way?
>>>>
>>>> On the CPU you can try this with large subdomains, preferably (in
>>>> serial ideally):
>>>> -ampere_mg_levels_ksp_type richardson
>>>> -ampere_mg_levels_pc_type sor
>>>>
>>>> And check that there are no unused options with -options_left. GAMG can
>>>> fail with bad eigen estimates, but these parameters look fine.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 5:01 AM nicola varini <nicola.varini at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Barry, yes it gives the same problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Il giorno gio 13 ago 2020 alle ore 23:22 Barry Smith <bsmith at petsc.dev>
>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Does the same thing work (with GAMG) if you run on the same
>>>>>> problem on the same machine same number of MPI ranks but make a new
>>>>>> PETSC_ARCH that does NOT use the GPUs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Barry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Ideally one gets almost identical convergence with CPUs or GPUs
>>>>>> (same problem, same machine) but a bug or numerically change "might" affect
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 10:28 AM, nicola varini <nicola.varini at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Barry, you are right. The Cray argument checking is incorrect.
>>>>>> It does work with download-fblaslapack.
>>>>>> However it does fail to converge. Is there anything obviously wrong
>>>>>> with my petscrc?
>>>>>> Anything else am I missing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il giorno gio 13 ago 2020 alle ore 03:17 Barry Smith <
>>>>>> bsmith at petsc.dev> ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    The QR is always done on the CPU, we don't have generic calls to
>>>>>>> blas/lapack go to the GPU currently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    The error message is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    On entry to __cray_mgm_dgeqrf, parameter 7 had an illegal value
>>>>>>> (info = -7)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    argument 7 is &LWORK which is defined by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    PetscBLASInt   LWORK=N*bs;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    N=nSAvec is the column block size of new P.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Presumably this is a huge run with many processes so using the
>>>>>>> debugger is not practical?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    We need to see what these variables are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     N, bs, nSAvec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     perhaps nSAvec is zero which could easily upset LAPACK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Crudest thing would be to just put a print statement in the code
>>>>>>> before the LAPACK call of if they are called many times add an error check
>>>>>>> like that
>>>>>>>     generates an error if any of these three values are 0 (or
>>>>>>> negative).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Barry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     It is not impossible that the Cray argument checking is
>>>>>>> incorrect and the value passed in is fine. You can check this by using
>>>>>>> --download-fblaslapack and see if the same or some other error comes up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2020, at 7:19 PM, Mark Adams <mfadams at lbl.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you reproduce this on the CPU?
>>>>>>> The QR factorization seems to be failing. That could be from bad
>>>>>>> data or a bad GPU QR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 4:19 AM nicola varini <
>>>>>>> nicola.varini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all, following the suggestions I did resubmit the simulation
>>>>>>>> with the petscrc below.
>>>>>>>> However I do get the following error:
>>>>>>>> ========
>>>>>>>>  7362 [592]PETSC ERROR: #1 formProl0() line 748 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/impls/gamg/agg.c
>>>>>>>>   7363 [339]PETSC ERROR: Petsc has generated inconsistent data
>>>>>>>>   7364 [339]PETSC ERROR: xGEQRF error
>>>>>>>>   7365 [339]PETSC ERROR: See
>>>>>>>> https://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html for trouble
>>>>>>>> shooting.
>>>>>>>>   7366 [339]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 3.13.3, Jul 01, 2020
>>>>>>>>   7367 [339]PETSC ERROR:
>>>>>>>> /users/nvarini/gbs_test_nicola/bin/gbs_daint_gpu_gnu on a  named nid05083
>>>>>>>> by nvarini Wed Aug 12 10:06:15 2020
>>>>>>>>   7368 [339]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --with-cc=cc
>>>>>>>> --with-fc=ftn --known-mpi-shared-libraries=1 --known-mpi-c-double-complex=1
>>>>>>>> --known-mpi-int64_t=1 --known-mpi-long-double=1 --with-batch=1
>>>>>>>> --known-64-bit-blas-indices=0 --LIBS=-lstdc++ --with-cxxlib-autodetect=0
>>>>>>>> --with-scalapa       ck=1 --with-cxx=CC --with-debugging=0
>>>>>>>> --with-hypre-dir=/opt/cray/pe/tpsl/19.06.1/GNU/8.2/haswell
>>>>>>>> --prefix=/scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc3.13.3-gpu --with-cuda=1
>>>>>>>> --with-cuda-c=nvcc --with-cxxlib-autodetect=0
>>>>>>>> --COPTFLAGS=-I/opt/cray/pe/mpt/7.7.10/gni/mpich-intel/16.0/include -
>>>>>>>> -with-cxx=CC
>>>>>>>> --CXXOPTFLAGS=-I/opt/cray/pe/mpt/7.7.10/gni/mpich-intel/16.0/include
>>>>>>>>   7369 [592]PETSC ERROR: #2 PCGAMGProlongator_AGG() line 1063 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/impls/gamg/agg.c
>>>>>>>>   7370 [592]PETSC ERROR: #3 PCSetUp_GAMG() line 548 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/impls/gamg/gamg.c
>>>>>>>>   7371 [592]PETSC ERROR: #4 PCSetUp() line 898 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/interface/precon.c
>>>>>>>>   7372 [592]PETSC ERROR: #5 KSPSetUp() line 376 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/ksp/interface/itfunc.c
>>>>>>>>   7373 [592]PETSC ERROR: #6 KSPSolve_Private() line 633 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/ksp/interface/itfunc.c
>>>>>>>>   7374 [316]PETSC ERROR: #3 PCSetUp_GAMG() line 548 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/impls/gamg/gamg.c
>>>>>>>>   7375 [339]PETSC ERROR: #1 formProl0() line 748 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/impls/gamg/agg.c
>>>>>>>>   7376 [339]PETSC ERROR: #2 PCGAMGProlongator_AGG() line 1063 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/impls/gamg/agg.c
>>>>>>>>   7377 [339]PETSC ERROR: #3 PCSetUp_GAMG() line 548 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/impls/gamg/gamg.c
>>>>>>>>   7378 [339]PETSC ERROR: #4 PCSetUp() line 898 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/interface/precon.c
>>>>>>>>   7379 [339]PETSC ERROR: #5 KSPSetUp() line 376 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/ksp/interface/itfunc.c
>>>>>>>>   7380 [592]PETSC ERROR: #7 KSPSolve() line 853 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/ksp/interface/itfunc.c
>>>>>>>>   7381 [339]PETSC ERROR: #6 KSPSolve_Private() line 633 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/ksp/interface/itfunc.c
>>>>>>>>   7382 [339]PETSC ERROR: #7 KSPSolve() line 853 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/ksp/interface/itfunc.c
>>>>>>>>   7383 On entry to __cray_mgm_dgeqrf, parameter 7 had an illegal
>>>>>>>> value (info = -7)
>>>>>>>>   7384 [160]PETSC ERROR: #3 PCSetUp_GAMG() line 548 in
>>>>>>>> /scratch/snx3000/nvarini/petsc-3.13.3/src/ksp/pc/impls/gamg/gamg.c
>>>>>>>> ========
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did try other pc_gamg_type but they fails as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #PETSc Option Table entries:
>>>>>>>> -ampere_dm_mat_type aijcusparse
>>>>>>>> -ampere_dm_vec_type cuda
>>>>>>>> -ampere_ksp_atol 1e-15
>>>>>>>> -ampere_ksp_initial_guess_nonzero yes
>>>>>>>> -ampere_ksp_reuse_preconditioner yes
>>>>>>>> -ampere_ksp_rtol 1e-7
>>>>>>>> -ampere_ksp_type dgmres
>>>>>>>> -ampere_mg_levels_esteig_ksp_max_it 10
>>>>>>>> -ampere_mg_levels_esteig_ksp_type cg
>>>>>>>> -ampere_mg_levels_ksp_chebyshev_esteig 0,0.05,0,1.05
>>>>>>>> -ampere_mg_levels_ksp_type chebyshev
>>>>>>>> -ampere_mg_levels_pc_type jacobi
>>>>>>>> -ampere_pc_gamg_agg_nsmooths 1
>>>>>>>> -ampere_pc_gamg_coarse_eq_limit 10
>>>>>>>> -ampere_pc_gamg_reuse_interpolation true
>>>>>>>> -ampere_pc_gamg_square_graph 1
>>>>>>>> -ampere_pc_gamg_threshold 0.05
>>>>>>>> -ampere_pc_gamg_threshold_scale .0
>>>>>>>> -ampere_pc_gamg_type agg
>>>>>>>> -ampere_pc_type gamg
>>>>>>>> -dm_mat_type aijcusparse
>>>>>>>> -dm_vec_type cuda
>>>>>>>> -log_view
>>>>>>>> -poisson_dm_mat_type aijcusparse
>>>>>>>> -poisson_dm_vec_type cuda
>>>>>>>> -poisson_ksp_atol 1e-15
>>>>>>>> -poisson_ksp_initial_guess_nonzero yes
>>>>>>>> -poisson_ksp_reuse_preconditioner yes
>>>>>>>> -poisson_ksp_rtol 1e-7
>>>>>>>> -poisson_ksp_type dgmres
>>>>>>>> -poisson_log_view
>>>>>>>> -poisson_mg_levels_esteig_ksp_max_it 10
>>>>>>>> -poisson_mg_levels_esteig_ksp_type cg
>>>>>>>> -poisson_mg_levels_ksp_chebyshev_esteig 0,0.05,0,1.05
>>>>>>>> -poisson_mg_levels_ksp_max_it 1
>>>>>>>> -poisson_mg_levels_ksp_type chebyshev
>>>>>>>> -poisson_mg_levels_pc_type jacobi
>>>>>>>> -poisson_pc_gamg_agg_nsmooths 1
>>>>>>>> -poisson_pc_gamg_coarse_eq_limit 10
>>>>>>>> -poisson_pc_gamg_reuse_interpolation true
>>>>>>>> -poisson_pc_gamg_square_graph 1
>>>>>>>> -poisson_pc_gamg_threshold 0.05
>>>>>>>> -poisson_pc_gamg_threshold_scale .0
>>>>>>>> -poisson_pc_gamg_type agg
>>>>>>>> -poisson_pc_type gamg
>>>>>>>> -use_mat_nearnullspace true
>>>>>>>> #End of PETSc Option Table entries
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nicola
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Il giorno mar 4 ago 2020 alle ore 17:57 Mark Adams <mfadams at lbl.gov>
>>>>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:35 AM Stefano Zampini <
>>>>>>>>> stefano.zampini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nicola,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are actually not using the GPU properly, since you use HYPRE
>>>>>>>>>> preconditioning, which is CPU only. One of your solvers is actually slower
>>>>>>>>>> on “GPU”.
>>>>>>>>>> For a full AMG GPU, you can use PCGAMG, with cheby smoothers and
>>>>>>>>>> with Jacobi preconditioning. Mark can help you out with the specific
>>>>>>>>>> command line options.
>>>>>>>>>> When it works properly, everything related to PC application is
>>>>>>>>>> offloaded to the GPU, and you should expect to get the well-known and
>>>>>>>>>> branded 10x (maybe more) speedup one is expecting from GPUs during KSPSolve
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The speedup depends on the machine, but on SUMMIT, using enough
>>>>>>>>> CPUs to saturate the memory bus vs all 6 GPUs the speedup is a function of
>>>>>>>>> problem subdomain size. I saw 10x at about 100K equations/process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doing what you want to do is one of the last optimization steps
>>>>>>>>>> of an already optimized code before entering production. Yours is not even
>>>>>>>>>> optimized for proper GPU usage  yet.
>>>>>>>>>> Also, any specific reason why you are using dgmres and fgmres?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PETSc has not been designed with multi-threading in mind. You can
>>>>>>>>>> achieve “overlap” of the two solves by splitting the communicator. But then
>>>>>>>>>> you need communications to let the two solutions talk to each other.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Stefano
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 12:04 PM, nicola varini <
>>>>>>>>>> nicola.varini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all, thanks for your replies. The reason why I've asked if
>>>>>>>>>> it is possible to overlap poisson and ampere is because they roughly
>>>>>>>>>> take the same amount of time. Please find in attachment the
>>>>>>>>>> profiling logs for only CPU  and only GPU.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course it is possible to split the MPI communicator and run
>>>>>>>>>> each solver on different subcommunicator, however this would involve more
>>>>>>>>>> communication.
>>>>>>>>>> Did anyone ever tried to run 2 solvers with hyperthreading?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno dom 2 ago 2020 alle ore 14:09 Mark Adams <
>>>>>>>>>> mfadams at lbl.gov> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect that the Poisson and Ampere's law solve are not
>>>>>>>>>>> coupled. You might be able to duplicate the communicator and use two
>>>>>>>>>>> threads. You would want to configure PETSc with threadsafty and threads and
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it could/should work, but this mode is never used by anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I would not recommend doing this unless you feel like
>>>>>>>>>>> playing in computer science, as opposed to doing application science. The
>>>>>>>>>>> best case scenario you get a speedup of 2x. That is a strict upper bound,
>>>>>>>>>>> but you will never come close to it. Your hardware has some balance of CPU
>>>>>>>>>>> to GPU processing rate. Your application has a balance of volume of work
>>>>>>>>>>> for your two solves. They have to be the same to get close to 2x speedup
>>>>>>>>>>> and that ratio(s) has to be 1:1. To be concrete, from what little I can
>>>>>>>>>>> guess about your applications let's assume that the cost of each of these
>>>>>>>>>>> two solves is about the same (eg, Laplacians on your domain and the best
>>>>>>>>>>> case scenario). But, GPU machines are configured to have roughly 1-10% of
>>>>>>>>>>> capacity in the GPUs, these days, that gives you an upper bound of about
>>>>>>>>>>> 10% speedup. That is noise. Upshot, unless you configure your hardware to
>>>>>>>>>>> match this problem, and the two solves have the same cost, you will not see
>>>>>>>>>>> close to 2x speedup. Your time is better spent elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:24 PM Jed Brown <jed at jedbrown.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use MPI and split the communicator so n-1 ranks create
>>>>>>>>>>>> a DMDA for one part of your system and the other rank drives the GPU in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> other part.  They can all be part of the same coupled system on the full
>>>>>>>>>>>> communicator, but PETSc doesn't currently support some ranks having their
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vec arrays on GPU and others on host, so you'd be paying host-device
>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer costs on each iteration (and that might swamp any performance
>>>>>>>>>>>> benefit you would have gotten).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case, be sure to think about the execution time of each
>>>>>>>>>>>> part.  Load balancing with matching time-to-solution for each part can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> really hard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Barry Smith <bsmith at petsc.dev> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >   Nicola,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     This is really viable or practical at this time with
>>>>>>>>>>>> PETSc. It is not impossible but requires careful coding with threads,
>>>>>>>>>>>> another possibility is to use one half of the virtual GPUs for each solve,
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is also not trivial. I would recommend first seeing what kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>> performance you can get on the GPU for each type of solve and revist this
>>>>>>>>>>>> idea in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >    Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Jul 31, 2020, at 9:23 AM, nicola varini <
>>>>>>>>>>>> nicola.varini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hello, I would like to know if it is possible to overlap CPU
>>>>>>>>>>>> and GPU with DMDA.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I've a machine where each node has 1P100+1Haswell.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I've to resolve Poisson and Ampere equation for each time
>>>>>>>>>>>> step.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I'm using 2D DMDA for each of them. Would be possible to
>>>>>>>>>>>> compute poisson
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> and ampere equation at the same time? One on CPU and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> other on GPU?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <out_gpu><out_nogpu>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <out_miniapp_f_poisson>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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