[petsc-users] Newton methods that converge all the time
Matthew Knepley
knepley at gmail.com
Tue Nov 7 05:53:44 CST 2017
On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Buesing, Henrik <
hbuesing at eonerc.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> Dear all,
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> I am solving a system of nonlinear, transient PDEs. I am using Newton’s
> method in every time step to solve the nonlinear algebraic equations. Of
> course, Newton’s method only converges if the initial guess is sufficiently
> close to the solution.
>
> This is often not the case and Newton’s method diverges. Then, I reduce
> the time step and try again. This can become prohibitively costly, if the
> time steps get very small. I am thus looking for variants of Newton’s
> method, which have a bigger convergence radius or ideally converge all the
> time.
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> I tried out the pseudo-timestepping described in
> http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-current/src/ts/examples/
> tutorials/ex1f.F.html.
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> However, this does converge even worse. I am seeing breakdown when I have
> phase changes (e.g. liquid to two-phase).
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> I was under the impression that pseudo-timestepping should converge
> better. Thus, my question:
>
> Am I doing something wrong or is it possible that Newton’s method
> converges and pseudo-timestepping does not?
>
> Thank you for any insight on this.
>
Hi Hendrik,
I would try using NGMRES as a nonlinear preconditioner. I have an example
in my tutorial slides for using it with SNES ex19.
I hope this will work because I suspect that around the phase boundary
Newton directions are noisy, since sometimes you
step into the other phase. NGMRES takes a few directions (you set the m)
and then picks the best one.
Hopefully this helps,
Matt
> Henrik
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