[petsc-dev] Adding support memkind allocators in PETSc
Barry Smith
bsmith at mcs.anl.gov
Wed Jun 3 21:33:59 CDT 2015
> On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Jed Brown <jed at jedbrown.org> wrote:
>
> Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
>> Richard has access to the hardware
>
> Is this true? Or he will have hardware "soon"?
>
>> and is not going to "lie to us" that "oh it helps so much" because
>> he knows that you will test it yourself and see that he is lying.
>
> I'm not at all worried about him lying, but I'm concerned about being
> able to sample across a sufficiently broad range of apps/configurations.
> Maybe he can run some PETSc examples and PFLOTRAN, which is a good
> start, but may not be running in the appropriately memory-constrained
> circumstances of a package with particles like pTatin, for example. We
> care not just about the highs but also about the confusing corners that
> users will undoubtedly encounter.
Even if it "helps" in only 30 percent of applications that is still a good thing (and a great thing politically). Then it becomes an issue of education and proper profiling tools to tell people for their apps that it won't work; so the other 70% is not "confused".
Note that Marc Snir today told me that it is perfectly fine if the "largest computing systems", i.e. the LCFs can only provide useful performance for a small subset of all possible applications.
Barry
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