KSPSkipConverged

Lisandro Dalcin dalcinl at gmail.com
Tue Aug 28 14:02:57 CDT 2007


On 8/28/07, Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/28/07, Lisandro Dalcin <dalcinl at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 8/28/07, Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Todd's response was that there are reasons it can stop early, like happy
> > > breakdown, so we really need to test this with the dev version to track
> > > down this behavior.
> >
> > OK, my tests script just looped over all available KPS types, but some
> > of them are special purpose. However, GLTR does not seems to stopping
> > because of happy breakdown, it always stop at maxit-1 (with my skip
> > converged), so perhaps there are a problem with the loop index.
>
> Okay, should be fixed in dev.
>
> > Matt, from your previous mail, something is not clear to me:
> >
> > Can I modify KSPSkipConverged for release-2.3.3 ?
>
> Yes, that seems fine. Have you made a patch to release before?

Yes, patch and commit and push in release, next pull on my local dev
copy, and finally push on central petsc-dev repo. Thanks.

Of course, any GLTR fix only on dev (unless it is really trivially
wrong, and in such case I will ask again).

>
>   Thanks,
>
>     Matt
>
> > >
> > >   Matt
> > >
> > > On 8/28/07, Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 8/28/07, Lisandro Dalcin <dalcinl at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 8/28/07, Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Yes, definitely. Go ahead and push it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I started to try this by implementing first on petsc4py with
> > > > > petsc-2.3.3-p4, by solving a trivial SPD diagonal system { A_ii =
> > > > > 1/(i+1) } with no PC and maxit=5. Below the results, some things seems
> > > > > broken.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I will do the following:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1- Correct things in release-2.3.3, KSP's should not set
> > > > > KSP_DIVERGED_ITS if the convergence test returned other than
> > > > > KSP_CONVERGED_ITERATING (all GMRES's, RICHARDSON and TCQMR seems to do
> > > > > this). It also seems that I have to review KSP type GLTR (it stopped
> > > > > at iteration 4 and not 5, as it should).
> > > > >
> > > > > 2- Modify KSPSkipConverged and push on petsc-dev. Or perhpas can we
> > > > > also push this on release-2.3.3? The previous way is rather buggy,
> > > > > especially in conjunction with KSP_NORM_NO.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds good. I will ask Todd about gltr since it might be supposed to
> > > > do something
> > > > funny. You really do not want to look at it.
> > > >
> > > >   Matt
> > > >
> > > > > Below the result (petsc4py is a nice tool for test/debug, isn't it?)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > tfqmr      - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 4.881889e-03,
> > > > > x0,N-1=0.999996,9.978373
> > > > > minres     - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.356222e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000009,9.701171
> > > > > fgmres     - DIVERGED_ITS         - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.356222e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000009,9.701171
> > > > > stcg       - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.629995e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000052,9.771470
> > > > > qcg        - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.629995e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=-1.000052,-9.771470
> > > > > cg         - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.629995e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000052,9.771470
> > > > > lgmres     - DIVERGED_ITS         - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.356222e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000009,9.701171
> > > > > cgne       - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 7.192229e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000000,7.116166
> > > > > chebychev  - DIVERGED_ITS         - iters:   5, ||r|| = 2.591834e+00,
> > > > > x0,N-1=0.636559,0.708271
> > > > > cgs        - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 1.457830e-03,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000000,9.994777
> > > > > bicg       - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.629995e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000052,9.771470
> > > > > lsqr       - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 4.612376e-01,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000000,7.116166
> > > > > gltr       - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   4, ||r|| = 5.629995e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000052,9.771470
> > > > > tcqmr      - DIVERGED_ITS         - iters:   5, ||r|| = 0.000000e+00,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000009,9.701171
> > > > > bcgs       - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 2.566301e-03,
> > > > > x0,N-1=0.999703,9.982615
> > > > > cr         - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.356222e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000009,9.701171
> > > > > symmlq     - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.629995e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000052,9.771470
> > > > > bcgsl      - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   5, ||r|| = 1.232695e-03,
> > > > > x0,N-1=0.999988,9.999315
> > > > > lcd        - DIVERGED_ITS         - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.629995e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000052,9.771470
> > > > > preonly    - CONVERGED_ITS        - iters:   1, ||r|| = 0.000000e+00,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000000,1.000000
> > > > > gmres      - DIVERGED_ITS         - iters:   5, ||r|| = 5.356222e-02,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000009,9.701171
> > > > > richardson - DIVERGED_ITS         - iters:   5, ||r|| = 1.215430e+00,
> > > > > x0,N-1=1.000000,4.095100
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/28/07, Lisandro Dalcin <dalcinl at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Does it make sense to change KSPSkipConverged to return
> > > > > > > KSP_CONVERGED_ITS if  iternum==maxit ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > KSP_DIVERGED_ITS means convergence failure, but IMHO, KSPSkipConverged
> > > > > > > should not imply convergence failure (this has implications in SNES).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > experiments is infinitely more interesting than any results to which
> > > > > > their experiments lead.
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> > > > > Lisandro Dalcín
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> > > > > Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química (INTEC)
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> > > > > Tel/Fax: +54-(0)342-451.1594
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> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > What most experimenters take for granted before they begin their
> > > > experiments is infinitely more interesting than any results to which
> > > > their experiments lead.
> > > > -- Norbert Wiener
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > What most experimenters take for granted before they begin their
> > > experiments is infinitely more interesting than any results to which
> > > their experiments lead.
> > > -- Norbert Wiener
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lisandro Dalcín
> > ---------------
> > Centro Internacional de Métodos Computacionales en Ingeniería (CIMEC)
> > Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química (INTEC)
> > Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas (CONICET)
> > PTLC - Güemes 3450, (3000) Santa Fe, Argentina
> > Tel/Fax: +54-(0)342-451.1594
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> What most experimenters take for granted before they begin their
> experiments is infinitely more interesting than any results to which
> their experiments lead.
> -- Norbert Wiener
>
>


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Lisandro Dalcín
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Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química (INTEC)
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