[Nek5000-users] Nek5000-users Digest, Vol 100, Issue 30

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Hi Jian,


Have a look at the "pipe" example.


I would expect the total element count to be about 10,000-30,000

for well resolved pipe flow at Re=5300.


There is a README on how to construct the mesh.


Please let me know if that helps...


Paul


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Hi Paul,

I changed the elements in the straight pipe which is I am doing at the moment. I set the horizontal and vertical axis as 14 spectral elements in the quarter-section for the simulation at Re=5300 based on bulk velocity. And the pipe length is 25R. Do you think it's enough to run the simulation? By the way, I run the simulation for a short time, after which I used visit to check the mesh finding that there are several things inside the pipe which are likely to be walls. And I found the mesh in visit shows that the cross-sectional views are different in the outlet and inlet which is open or closed. I set the axis view in visit to not show the axis.

Kind regards,

Jian

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Hi Paul,

Now the number of total elements is 576000 written in the rea file. By the
way, would you please tell me the reason why only 1/1000 number of elements
are needed indeed with SEM.

Kind regards,

Jian


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> Dear Jiang,
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> I think you have too many elements.  Keep in mind that with the SEM you
> need about 1/1000th of the number of elements that you would for FEM.
>
>
> What is the largest SEM run you have made so far?
>
>
> Best, Paul
>
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> Hi Neks,
>
> Is there anyone know the reason for the following error, in which there
> are hundred millions of grid points in the geometry.
>
>  ABORT: NELT>LELM, modify LELM in SIZE and recompile
>
> I changed the LELM to be big enough, even equals to 7000000000000, but it
> doesn't work though. I guess the reasons would be:
>
> 1. genmap cannot regonize large elements mesh;
> 2. I didn't get a recompilation after changing LELM parameter since I
> don't know how to compile and thought genmap commond would be changed
> automatically when the SIZE file in /home/bin/genmap was changed.
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> Kind regards,
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Dear Jiang,


If you run with lx1=10 you have 1000 points per element.


FEM never runs with 10th order - the SEM is meant to do this.


What is the largest SEM problem you have run so far?  I recommend starting with a sequence of small ones just to get used to the workflow.


Paul


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Hi Paul,

Now the number of total elements is 576000 written in the rea file. By the way, would you please tell me the reason why only 1/1000 number of elements are needed indeed with SEM.

Kind regards,

Jian

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Dear Jiang,


I think you have too many elements.  Keep in mind that with the SEM you need about 1/1000th of the number of elements that you would for FEM.


What is the largest SEM run you have made so far?


Best, Paul


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Subject: [Nek5000-users] genmap

Hi Neks,

Is there anyone know the reason for the following error, in which there are hundred millions of grid points in the geometry.

 ABORT: NELT>LELM, modify LELM in SIZE and recompile

I changed the LELM to be big enough, even equals to 7000000000000, but it doesn't work though. I guess the reasons would be:

1. genmap cannot regonize large elements mesh;
2. I didn't get a recompilation after changing LELM parameter since I don't know how to compile and thought genmap commond would be changed automatically when the SIZE file in /home/bin/genmap was changed.

Kind regards,

Jian
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