[Nek5000-users] Heat/passive scalar solver - Helmholtz

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Dear Philipp,

These seem like reasonable numbers.

What is the magnitude of the error?  Do you see a decrease when you
increase resolution?

If you'd like to contact me off list I can take a look at your log and usr files and see if
anything appears to be wrong.

Best,

Paul

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Dear Paul,

The Peclet and Reynolds number based on the Taylor-microscale and rms velocity are Pe = 33.9 and Re = 48.5.
The periodic box of edge legnth 2*pi is discretized with 20^3 spectral elements of polynomial order 7.
The grid Peclet number based on the mean grid spacing 2*pi/(20*7) and the rms velocity is Pe_grid = 6.69.

We increased the polynomial order from 7 to 11 and 17 and reduced dt accordingly (CFL < 0.4). However, the volumetric scalar means are still not constant. Is there a stability criterion for the solution of the passive scalar equations in Nek? Are there other possible reasons for our numerical errors?

Best, Philipp
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Dear Philipp,

The usual way to cure the problem is to increase the spatial resolution.
This can be done by changing lx1 in the SIZE file (and, typically, reducing dt).

What is your Peclet or Reynolds number?

What is your grid resolution?

What is your grid Peclet number?

Best,

Paul

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Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 12:33 PM
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Subject: [Nek5000-users] Heat/passive scalar solver - Helmholtz

Hi Neks,

We simulated the turbulent mixing of passive scalars with the Helmholtz solver. Parameter p22 in the .rea file is set to 10E-09. Our scalar fields show numerical errors, e.g. the scalar volumetric means are not constant but oscillate in time.

Is there a way to reduce the numerical errors / increase the accuracy of the Helmholtz solver?

Best, Philipp Weiss
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