[Nek5000-users] Marangoni flow

Fri Jul 16 12:44:28 CDT 2010

On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 05:48 -0500, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov
wrote:
> Hi Frank,
> 
> the 3-fold mesh looks to be the best resolved -- What happens
> if you increase N in the other cases?

Hi Paul,

I have not yet done this systematically.

Frank

> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 19:21 -0500, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov
> wrote:
> > Hi Frank,
> > 
> > So the 4 and 5 symm. meshes yield correct, non-chaotic results,
> > but the 3-fold symm. mesh gives a chaotic, and incorrect, result.
> > 
> > Is that a correct summary ?
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Yes, that is what I'm seeing.
> 
> Cheers,
> Frank
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 18:47 -0500, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Frank,
> > > 
> > > Does the chaotic behavior go away when you raise N ?
> > 
> > Hi Paul,
> > 
> > I have used N=6 and N=8 with that grid, with little difference in the
> > results.  There are more elements (120) in the xy plane than for the m=4
> > (48 elements in xy) mesh
> > http://www.cct.lsu.edu/~fmuldoo/temp/m-4.png
> > or for the m=5 (60 elements in xy) mesh
> > http://www.cct.lsu.edu/~fmuldoo/temp/m-5.png
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Frank
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello all,
> > > 
> > > At present we are working on understanding some rotating/traveling waves
> > > that occur in a cylindrical geometry.  In particular, the effect of the
> > > grid on the solution is of interest.  The results from the following
> > > grid in the xy plane, (it is simply extruded in the z direction) exhibit
> > > a somewhat unexpected (chaotic) behavior.  Would welcome any and all
> > > comments concerning the quality of this mesh.
> > > 
> > > http://www.cct.lsu.edu/~fmuldoo/temp/m-3.png
> > > 
> > > P.S. The reason for looking at a mesh with m=3 symmetry is due to the
> > > existence of either m=3 and m=4 rotating/traveling waves; meshes with
> > > m=3 and m=5 symmetry have also been looked at and give identical (non
> > > chaotic) results.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Frank
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
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> Mechanics and Heat Transfer)
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Technische Universität Wien (Vienna Technical University)
Inst. f. Strömungsmechanik und Wärmeübertragung (Institute of Fluid
Mechanics and Heat Transfer)
Resselgasse 3
1040 Wien
Tel: +4315880132232
Fax: +4315880132299 
Cell:+436765203470
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