[mpich-discuss] Strange MPICH2 behavior in Clearcase

[Pavan Balaji]

Sorry, we don't have enough knowledge on Clearcase to understand what's 
going on. If you can provide me with an account on this machine, I'll be 
happy to figure out what's happening.

If not, can you try similar scripts as what you had used for PBS and 
other resource managers and see if that works with Hydra?

  -- Pavan

On 04/12/2010 09:45 PM, chong tan wrote:
> There a quite some issues with running MPICH2 in Clearcase.  At first, I 
> thought I can run the daemon from outside
> a view as I always run mpiexec from a view.  That turned out to be a 
> problem as the executables inside a view somehow
> became invisible. 
> 
> I don't use mpdboot because of ssh.  I have a few schemes that I use 
> depending on a grid's setting.  A basic scheme
> is to limit each node on the grid to run 1 job, which is a script that 
> launch mpd at the beginning, and kill it at the end.
> 
> In a simple word,  I can't use anything that requires login on grid nodes.
> 
> tan
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Pavan Balaji <balaji at mcs.anl.gov>
> *To:* mpich-discuss at mcs.anl.gov
> *Sent:* Mon, April 12, 2010 2:41:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [mpich-discuss] Strange MPICH2 behavior in Clearcase
> 
> 
> How are you launching the mpd daemons? mpdboot would need to ssh into 
> the machines to launch mpd daemons as well. If ssh works fine for you, 
> Hydra should work correctly as well. What's the problem you are seeing?
> 
> -- Pavan
> 
> On 04/08/2010 03:22 PM, chong tan wrote:
>  > hydra is not a solution I can use.  The main issue is that login is 
> not allow in most grid env.
>  >
>  > running mpd outside of clearcase view does not work as the 
> executables are inside views.  It looks like
>  > the problem could be inside mpd or mpiexec.  The likely cause is that 
> I am running from 2 different views.
>  > It would be nice if I can run 2 mpd, one per view, on the same 
> machine, to help isolate the problem.
>  >
>  > tan
>  >
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > *From:* Dave Goodell <goodell at mcs.anl.gov <mailto:goodell at mcs.anl.gov>>
>  > *To:* mpich-discuss at mcs.anl.gov <mailto:mpich-discuss at mcs.anl.gov>
>  > *Sent:* Thu, April 8, 2010 10:29:40 AM
>  > *Subject:* Re: [mpich-discuss] Strange MPICH2 behavior in Clearcase
>  >
>  > We (the MPICH2 developers) don't have any experience with clearcase.  
> Perhaps someone in the community does though.  Because of the way that 
> clearcase works, strange filesystem behavior in MPD doesn't surprise me.
>  >
>  > I would try two things:
>  >
>  > 1) Use hydra with the "-wdir" option instead of MPD, as we discussed 
> in a previous thread: 
> https://lists.mcs.anl.gov/mailman/htdig/mpich-discuss/2010-January/006356.html
>  >
>  > 2) Run your mpdboot from a directory outside of your clearcase 
> mount.  This might avoid some of these problems.
>  >
>  > -Dave
>  >
>  > On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:59 AM, chong tan wrote:
>  >
>  >  > I am running MPICH2 1.2.1 in Clearcase and observed this crazy 
> MPICH2 behavior.  basically,
>  >  > I have 2 code streams (or clearcase view), one is a stable one and 
> is where I am writing new code.
>  >  > the 2 streams are not compatible to some extend.  Say my 
> executable is called MY, so there are 2
>  >  > version of it.
>  >  >
>  >  > I launch MY in a common script using :
>  >  >
>  >  > mpiexec MY < options> : MY < options>  : ...
>  >  >
>  >  > I run both, alternatedly on my test cases.  the run dir is cleaned 
> to the bone between the runs.  From time
>  >  > to time, I run into situation where the wrong executable was 
> picked up.  the problem goes away after
>  >  > I restart mpd.
>  >  >
>  >  > Question:  is this a know issue of MPICH2 ? or this is a issue of 
> MPICH2 + clearcase ?
>  >  >
>  >  > thanks
>  >  > tan
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
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