[mpich-discuss] Another question on Bcast - Send - Recv

[Hiatt, Dave M]

If say my Bcast monitor thread, is waiting on a receive, and based on other conditions I determine that no more messages will be broadcast, will MPI::Finalize clean up that outstanding Bcast.  If not, what is the accepted way of terminating it, term the thread?  Or do I have to create a semantic to Bcast out that says, "End".  What's typically done, is there a "best practice?".

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[mailto:mpich-discuss-bounces at mcs.anl.gov]On Behalf Of Dorian Krause
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Recv


Hiatt, Dave M wrote:
> Thanks, yes I took it initially that way, but then I read too closely I guess.
>
> So if Bcasts' and Recvs' are intermingled, is MPICH2 completely thread safe so that I can have both a Bcast and a Recv outstanding on two different threads for the same process (rank) or do I need to make communicators for the Recvs' that are different than for the Bcasts', what's the best approach?
>

The MPI standard guarantees that pt-2-pt communication and collective
calls do not interfer (p. 131). With a standard conforming
implementation you can use the same communicator.

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> [mailto:mpich-discuss-bounces at mcs.anl.gov]On Behalf Of Rajeev Thakur
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> Recv
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> No you cannot match a broadcast with a receive. Note that the text you
> mention in Using MPI comes under the section "Common Errors and
> Misunderstandings", one of which is "Matching MPI_Bcast with MPI_Recv."
>
> Rajeev
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mpich-discuss-bounces at mcs.anl.gov
>> [mailto:mpich-discuss-bounces at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Hiatt, Dave M
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:19 PM
>> To: mpich-discuss at mcs.anl.gov
>> Subject: [mpich-discuss] A bit of clarification on Bcast - Send - Recv
>>
>> First, I apologize for "if you node", if A node, sorry I
>> think a lot faster than I can type (thank goodness for that).
>>
>> My question revolves around a statement on Pg 66 of Using
>> MPI, which led me to believe that I could use MPI::Recv to
>> receive MPI::Bcast messages.  "An MPI::Recv does not have to
>> check whether the message it has just received is part of a
>> broadcast .....".  But in every attempt I have made to us
>> MPI::Recv, it never responds to a MPI::Bcast.  I have assumed
>> that I am making some bonehead mistake, but am now totally
>> frustrated that I have failed to get this to work.
>> MPI::Bcast on the receiving node works fine as a receiver,
>> but MPI::Recv does not for broadcast messages.  I am on 1.0.7
>> of MPICH2 by the way.
>>
>> Thanks again
>> Dave
>>
>>
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