[AG-USERS] Pertinent persistence

[Tom Coffin]

I propose that we try to create a persistent presence
with some nodes. I could keep my office pig in that
venue when not monitoring other meetings. This way
we could experiment with it and see if it can work.
We should also probablly keep the email discussion to 
the ag-users list.

Bob - 
would it be possible for ANL to host a venue and associated
moo room for this experiment? maybe it could be called the 
agusers room or the persistent room or something like that?????????

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At 09:16 AM 3/14/2003 -0600, Wenjun Liu wrote:
   >Hi,
   >
   >So far, I got six responses to my persistent space question, many of which
   >are really helpful. I would like to summarize what we learned so far and
   >propose a persistent push on this thread. 
   >
   >As most responses indicate, persistent space question have two sides:
   >available physical place and pertinent virtual space. Current AG nodes are
   >likely located in places for other purposes that make persistence
   >problematic. Besides, having AG nodes always on requires quite a bit of
   >maintaining efforts. On the virtual space side, virtual venues seem
   >limited (?) and no dedicated vv for specific interest groups to always on
   >without worrying about privacy problems. In addition, it seems that
   >providing a persistent space for all nodes from the large AG community to
   >casual encounter each other is a nave wish. To really use persistent space
   >requires pertinent interests, trust, and high quality video to make
   >participants feel comfortable (won't cause virtual reality-induced
   >symptoms and effects or VRISE), which is usually better off with a small
   >group of 6 to12 people. Given all that, we sill have to deal with
   >communicative asymmetry problem, that is, when one party tries to initiate
   >an interaction with another, visual gestures, gazes, and the articulation
   >of talks are often not symmetrically perceived by the other party. Last
   >but not least, there are other researches going on about persistent space
   >that we may see soon. 
   >
   >All these seem good reasons for us to push this thread of discussion
   >further. I know there were many productive discussions in AG-TECH (and
   >recently in AG-USERS). But all those discussions seemed to be point
   >activities, that is, many responses to one question at a point of time and
   >then no more group efforts on it. This time, I would like to keep this
   >interest in persistent space persistent. I propose that we set up a
   >distributed group (of our seven souls first, others welcome to join) based
   >on the same research interest to continue work on it until we get
   >something that makes a real contribution, theoretically and empirically,
   >to AG technology and CSCW.
   >
   >I remember there were other efforts in AG community that tried to play the
   >social first (for example, set up a band over AG and beer festivals) and
   >hope for collaboration later. Our approach is different: we share a same
   >interest first and will build our social bond later (I am sending a
   >separate email to all six with details). Will we succeed this time?
   >
   >Thanks,
   >
   >Wenjun
   >
   >
   >


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Tom Coffin .......................... tcoffin at ncsa.uiuc.edu