[AG-TECH] Multi-channel video capture

A Quay andy at digitalworlds.ufl.edu
Tue Mar 30 15:26:02 CST 2004


Did anybody every resolve this topic for the perfect quad-input video
capture card? I am about to build another three CPU ag node and would
really like to use a card such as the winnov videum 4400 quad input
video card or Ituner Spectra 8 video capture card due to my lack of PCI
slots.

I really need a card that performs seamlessly with AG 2.x and ideally
would like one that still works with AG 1.x.

Any suggestions would be great.

-andy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Osland, CD (Chris) " <C.D.Osland at rl.ac.uk>
> To: AG Tech <ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov>
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:56:52 -0000 
> Subject: [AG-TECH] Multi-channel video capture
> 
> My quest for efficient video capture of multiple channels via a
> single card continues.
> 
> I was originally looking at the iTuner Spectra card (with 4 
> channels) but have found that the UK supplier has given up 
> 'because of problems with support'.  Many thanks for those 
> who replied, especially Bob Riddle; from him I understand 
> that use of the Spectra card increases the amount of 
> hand-knitting that has to be done whne switching venues.
> 
> My next candidate is the Winnov Videum 4400 VO (or non-VO if 
> I reckon I can use the audio interfaces to save on a sound 
> card). Can the list tell me whether this would suffer in the 
> same way (having to do extra work whenever you change venue)? 
>  I really want to increase automation, not add extra operator tasks.
> 
> Many thanks in advance for any views.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Chris Osland
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Riddle [mailto:bdr at internet2.edu]
> > Sent: 12 February 2004 17:45
> > To: Osland, CD (Chris) 
> > Cc: AG Tech
> > Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] hauppauge video problems
> > 
> > 
> > yes - but as Mike said, every time I switch venues and vic(s) 
> > restart, I 
> > get the little window (for each instance of vic) that asks me 
> > to choose 
> > my video source.   That doesn't annoy me, so I'm a happy 
> > Spectra8 card 
> > user (and I opened up a couple more PCI slots!)
> > 
> > Osland, CD (Chris) wrote:
> > 
> > >Just to check, Bob...
> > >
> > >You say you're using the Spectra8 card - do I assume that you're
> > >using it successfully!? Under XP?  If so, that's the way I'm
> > >going to go as well.
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >Chris
> > >
> > 
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> > >  
> > >
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Bob Riddle [mailto:bdr at internet2.edu]
> > >>Sent: 11 February 2004 16:19
> > >>To: Michael Miller
> > >>Cc: Ti Leggett; Harold Micheal Goldman; AG Tech
> > >>Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] hauppauge video problems
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I actually use a Spectra8 card on our "loaner" AG - it has 
> > four video 
> > >>ports on it and works the way Michael describes.  I've been 
> > >>trying to do 
> > >>the same thing with a 4-port Winnov card as well ... (you 
> > know, there 
> > >>are only so many PCI port in a one-box node!)
> > >>
> > >>Michael Miller wrote:
> > >>
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>Just to add to what Ti said:
> > >>>
> > >>>My experience has been that, depending on the driver, you 
> > >>>      
> > >>>
> > >>can select 
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>the WDM device in the configuration of multiple 
> > >>>      
> > >>>
> > >>VideoProducers.  When 
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>vic starts up, one of the WDM cameras is automatically 
> > selected for 
> > >>>the first VideoProducer.  Then you are given a series of 
> > dialogs to 
> > >>>choose a camera for each remaining VideoProducer.  Again, 
> > >>>      
> > >>>
> > >>whether you 
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>get to choose another camera will depend on how the driver 
> > >>>      
> > >>>
> > >>enumerates 
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>the cameras.  The QuickCam Pro 4000 does show you multiple 
> > cameras, 
> > >>>but it gives them all the same name.  So, it can be 
> confusing when 
> > >>>trying to choose a camera for the subsequent 
> > >>>      
> > >>>
> > >>VideoProducers.  If you 
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>have two different cameras, the WDM drivers will assign names as 
> > >>>appropriate and it's much easier to decide which camera to 
> > >>>      
> > >>>
> > >>choose.  I 
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>have an iBot firewire camera and a QuickCam Pro 4000 so 
> I can see 
> > >>>which camera has become the default after the last 
> > session.  If you 
> > >>>have two of the same camera and the driver doesn't assign each a 
> > >>>unique name, that's when you run into trouble.
> > >>>
> > >>>HTH
> > >>>
> > >>>Michael Miller
> > >>>NCSA
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>At 05:36 PM 2/10/2004, Ti Leggett wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>      
> > >>>
> > >>>>Actually the problem is this. Vic can only handle Video 
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>for Windows (VfW
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>>devices) which is an old driver style. vic can map the 
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>newer WDM drivers
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>>to a VfW device, but it can only do that for one device. 
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>Basically, if
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>>you have drivers that are VfW then all of them will be 
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>seen and usable
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>>in vic. If the drivers are WDM only, then vic will pick a 
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>device and map
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>>and that's it. Hauppage has stopped providing VfW drivers 
> > for their
> > >>>>cards. Osprey, however, still provides VfW drivers for 
> > their cards.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>This driver issue is also why you can only have one web 
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>cam hooked up
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>>since, I'd say, all web cams provide only WDM drivers.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Make more sense?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 08:35, Bob Riddle wrote:
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>for what it's worth - I've been down this road and gave 
> > >>>>>          
> > >>>>>
> > >>up - while 
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>>this
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>is no problem on Linux, the driver for WinXP assumes 
> > >>>>>          
> > >>>>>




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