Poking around, it looks like wxwindows/wxpython is availibile for Mac OSX. Any chance of the AGTk following suite any time soon? I have at least one user here who would be willing to play around with beta versions... -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC