[AG-TECH] hauppauge video problems

Thu Feb 12 11:44:54 CST 2004

yes - but as Mike said, every time I switch venues and vic(s) restart, I 
get the little window (for each instance of vic) that asks me to choose 
my video source.   That doesn't annoy me, so I'm a happy Spectra8 card 
user (and I opened up a couple more PCI slots!)

Osland, CD (Chris) wrote:

>Just to check, Bob...
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>You say you're using the Spectra8 card - do I assume that you're
>using it successfully!? Under XP?  If so, that's the way I'm
>going to go as well.
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>Cheers
>
>Chris
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Bob Riddle [mailto:bdr at internet2.edu]
>>Sent: 11 February 2004 16:19
>>To: Michael Miller
>>Cc: Ti Leggett; Harold Micheal Goldman; AG Tech
>>Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] hauppauge video problems
>>
>>
>>I actually use a Spectra8 card on our "loaner" AG - it has four video 
>>ports on it and works the way Michael describes.  I've been 
>>trying to do 
>>the same thing with a 4-port Winnov card as well ... (you know, there 
>>are only so many PCI port in a one-box node!)
>>
>>Michael Miller wrote:
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>>>Just to add to what Ti said:
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>>>My experience has been that, depending on the driver, you 
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>>can select 
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>>>the WDM device in the configuration of multiple 
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>>VideoProducers.  When 
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>>>vic starts up, one of the WDM cameras is automatically selected for 
>>>the first VideoProducer.  Then you are given a series of dialogs to 
>>>choose a camera for each remaining VideoProducer.  Again, 
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>>whether you 
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>>>get to choose another camera will depend on how the driver 
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>>enumerates 
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>>>the cameras.  The QuickCam Pro 4000 does show you multiple cameras, 
>>>but it gives them all the same name.  So, it can be confusing when 
>>>trying to choose a camera for the subsequent 
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>>VideoProducers.  If you 
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>>>have two different cameras, the WDM drivers will assign names as 
>>>appropriate and it's much easier to decide which camera to 
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>>choose.  I 
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>>>have an iBot firewire camera and a QuickCam Pro 4000 so I can see 
>>>which camera has become the default after the last session.  If you 
>>>have two of the same camera and the driver doesn't assign each a 
>>>unique name, that's when you run into trouble.
>>>
>>>HTH
>>>
>>>Michael Miller
>>>NCSA
>>>
>>>
>>>At 05:36 PM 2/10/2004, Ti Leggett wrote:
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>>>>Actually the problem is this. Vic can only handle Video 
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>>for Windows (VfW
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>>>>devices) which is an old driver style. vic can map the 
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>>newer WDM drivers
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>>>>to a VfW device, but it can only do that for one device. 
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>>Basically, if
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>>>>you have drivers that are VfW then all of them will be 
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>>seen and usable
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>>>>in vic. If the drivers are WDM only, then vic will pick a 
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>>device and map
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>>>>and that's it. Hauppage has stopped providing VfW drivers for their
>>>>cards. Osprey, however, still provides VfW drivers for their cards.
>>>>
>>>>This driver issue is also why you can only have one web 
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>>cam hooked up
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>>>>since, I'd say, all web cams provide only WDM drivers.
>>>>
>>>>Make more sense?
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 08:35, Bob Riddle wrote:
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>>>>>for what it's worth - I've been down this road and gave 
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>>up - while 
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>>>>this
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>>>>>is no problem on Linux, the driver for WinXP assumes 
>>>>>          
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>>that only one 
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>>>>WinTV
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>>>>>card will be on the system.  It cost less for a couple 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>of Osprey100
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>>>>>cards than it did for the time I spent on trying to make 
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>>this work.
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>>>>>sigh.
>>>>>
>>>>>Harold Micheal Goldman wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know of any way to get two hauppauge WinTv video 
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>>>>capture cards to
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>>>>>>work at the same time in Windows XP. I am creating an 
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>>Access Grid 
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>>>>Node here at
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>>>>>>the University of Southern Mississippi for Collaboration for 
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>>>>Genomic Research.
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>>>>>>I will also be setting up similar agn's at four othe 
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>>universities 
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>>>>here in the
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>>>>>>state. I had bought the two cards on the advice of a 
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>>friend that 
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>>>>admins a agn
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>>>>>>for the computer science dept here at usm, but we 
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>>cannot get both 
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>>>>cards to work
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>>>>>>under xp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank You
>>>>>>Mike Goldman
>>>>>>Bioinformatics Coordinator
>>>>>>MFGN   USM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>Thanx,
>>>
>>>Michael Miller
>>>System Engineer
>>>Visualization Technology Support
>>>Computing and Data Management
>>>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>>>University of Illinois - UC
>>>217-649-0747
>>>
>>>"If you're clear in your vision and trust the people in 
>>>      
>>>
>>your team with 
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>>>clear objectives, they will invariably do their best to achieve 
>>>everything desired, and usually deliver everything you could have 
>>>hoped for and even more." -Paul Debevec
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>-- 
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