[AG-TECH] Open Mash still in process?

Ivan R. Judson judson at mcs.anl.gov
Tue May 27 14:51:10 CDT 2003


Nope.

Since OpenMash isn't using UCL's lib common for security or the RTP stack
rijndael isn't available. There are obviously two directions this could go,
copy the implementation from common to OpenMash, or (the one I'd like to
see) is move OpenMash to use lib common for RTP, Security, and expose the
Mbus stuff.

--Ivan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov 
> [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Randy Groves
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:43 PM
> To: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Open Mash still in process?
> 
> 
> Would that include support for Rijndael?
> 
> -randy
> 
> At 02:12 PM 5/27/2003 -0500, Ivan R. Judson wrote:
> 
> >Hey,
> >
> >I believe the last time we discussed this (just at the 
> beginning of our 
> >2.0
> >mayhem) we came to the conlusion that the only three items 
> stopping us were:
> >
> >1) Autoplace:
> >
> >   I'm having a student work on reproducing the current ag-vic 
> >autoplace functionality in OM vic so we can compare the two 
> and remove 
> >this obstacle.
> >
> >2) Performance:
> >
> >   This is less of a show stopper than it sounds, I think 
> the two are 
> >within 10% of each other performance-wise (last time I 
> checked, which 
> >was again, long ago). We'd like to verify this and make sure 
> that there 
> >are no gotcha's.
> >
> >3) Security:
> >
> >   I'm having the same student build OM with security enabled and 
> >verify that streams are interoperable (I expect they are). 
> It'd be nice 
> >if we got security compiled into mash by default.
> >
> >Other than that, I think it's a matter of us discussing how to move 
> >ahead on it and we could adopt OM vic very soon.  We're 
> already toying 
> >with a headless video sender using OM now, to make sending video 
> >streams easier.
> >
> >--Ivan
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov 
> [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] 
> > > On Behalf Of Andrew Swan
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:04 PM
> > > To: Randy Groves
> > > Cc: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> > > Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] Open Mash still in process?
> > >
> > >
> > > Randy Groves wrote:
> > > > Is someone still working on OpenMash?  I thought
> > > development on this
> > > > ended
> > > > because of funding.
> > >
> > > The grants that funded full time staff have ended but there are 
> > > several students still working actively on various 
> projects.  As far 
> > > as little bugfixes and keeping up with new OS releases 
> etc. it is at 
> > > least as well supported as ucl vic :-)
> > >
> > > Seriously, the {ucl,ag} vic codebase is really pretty 
> close to the 
> > > mash codebase and it seems wasteful to maintain two separate yet 
> > > very similar apps.  Ivan mentions a few of the nice mash vic 
> > > features mash below and in addition, its software jpeg decoder is 
> > > compatible with rtptv and the h.263 codec has been 
> greatly improved 
> > > recently.
> > >
> > > > >but specifically if we use OpenMash's vic tool it does 
> a couple 
> > > > >of things nicely, first it has a 's' command key that turns on
> > > scroll bars in the
> > > > >thumbnail view (yay), and it also has automatic detection
> > > of blue/black
> > > > >video streams and the option of not displaying them.
> > > Further, it has the
> > > > >ability to have the autoplacement of video streams be
> > > programmatically
> > > > >modified (using tcl --ick). However, the biggest drawback
> > > is that it
> > > > >doesn't have autoplacement working the way our vic does yet.
> > >
> > > I'm not really familiar with how autoplace works on 
> agvic, can you 
> > > elaborate Ivan?  And are there any other barriers to wide 
> adoption 
> > > of open mash vic within ag?
> > >
> > > -Andrew
> > >
> 
> 
> 




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