[AG-TECH] Re: AG Retreat 2003

mmurphy at ryerson.ca mmurphy at ryerson.ca
Fri Mar 28 18:54:03 CST 2003


Many:

This is simply outrageous. I didn't know that the USA had second-class citizenship for some Canadians. What an absolute disgrace! Is the US government also preventing its own US citizens who were born in "certain countries" from attending? I thought this project was all about open source development around the world. 

Sadly, I am angered but not surprised. I will NOT be attending. I was born in Canada, but my ancestors came from Ireland, so who knows when we will be next.

Michael

Michael J. Murphy, P.Eng., PhD
Professor and Head of Audio & New Media
School of Radio & Television Arts
Ryerson University, Toronto Canada
tel:(416) 979-5000 ext. 7010
fax: (416) 979-5246
e-mail: mmurphy at ryerson.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: Many Ayromlou <mayromlo at ryerson.ca>
Date: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:27 pm
Subject: AG Retreat 2003

> Hi everyone,
> 
> As the principal technical support person for the AG project at 
> Ryerson 
> University, I'm writing this to inform everyone of the regulations 
> that have 
> been put into place for agretreat 2003 by the Department Of Energy 
> and how 
> this has affected me. I'm a researcher currently working from 
> Ryerson 
> University in Toronto, Canada. I'm a Canadian Citizen and have 
> been living in 
> Cananda for 16 years. Previous to that I lived in Salzburg, 
> Austria for 5 
> years. I was also born in Tehran, Iran 34 years ago in September 1969.
> 
> As you can see below the AG Retreat 2003 was announced on Sat. 
> March 01 2003 
> in the following Email that went out on this list:
> 
> On March 1, 2003 09:02 pm, Michael E. Papka wrote:
> > ACCESS GRID RETREAT 2003
> >
> > http://www.mcs.anl.gov/fl/events/agr2003/
> >
> > The Access Grid Technical Retreat 2003 will be taking place at 
> Argonne> National Laboratory, April 15-16, 2003. Program topics 
> are provided below,
> > with the major
> > focus on moving the community from AG 1.0 to AG 2.0 and 
> increasing the
> > community involvement in the development of tools and 
> infrastructure for
> > AG 2.0. There will be a nominal registration fee for this 
> retreat (details
> > follow).
> >
> >
> > PROGRAM Topics:
> >
> >     PLENARY TRACK
> >     How does the AG become platform for Grid computing?
> >     How to build a community?
> >     Security
> >     AG X.X wish list
> >     Innovative uses of the AG
> >     Use of the AG in private sector
> >     Scheduling
> >     SCGlobal
> >
> >     DEVELOPERS TRACK
> >     Building applications on top the AG 2.0 platform.
> >     Extensions to Virtual Venues (Core, Services, Applications)
> >     Voyager 2.0 architecture
> >     Globus
> >     pyglobus
> >     AG 2.0 packaging and install
> >
> >     USERS TRACK
> >     Development status and timelines geared towards users.
> >     Bringing folks into AG community
> >     Troubleshooting AG sessions
> >     Operation of AG 2.0
> >     Effects of AG 2.0 on meeting and event planning
> >     Issues of interest to managers
> >
> > LOCATION INFORMATION:
> > Argonne National Laboratory
> > 9700 South Cass Avenue
> > Argonne, Illinois 60439
> > 630.252.2000
> >
> > AG RETREAT LOCATION:
> > Advanced Photon Source (APS) Conference Center
> > Building 402, APS Auditorium
> >
> > REGISTRATION FEES:
> > $35 for Argonne employees
> > $50 for U.S. Department of Energy employees
> > $85 for all others organizations
> > (All payment information and options found on AG Retreat 2003 
> website> listed above.)
> >
> > MEETING REGISTRATION:
> > You need to formally register for these meetings.
> > Registration is REQUIRED in order to enter Argonne's site. 
> Please read over
> > the AG Retreat 2003 web pages listed above for detailed information.
> >
> > Deadline for housing is March 28, 2003.
> > Deadline for registration will be determined upon volume of 
> attendees> registered.
> > Deadline for registration of all non-U.S. citizens is 10 days 
> prior to
> > their arrival onsite.
> >
> > HOTEL ARRANGEMENTS:
> > Deadline is March 28, 2003
> > Please note, the above meeting registration will only "register" 
> you for
> > attendance at the meeting. You will need to call the hotel 
> directly to make
> > your room arrangements. To make hotel arrangements, please contact:
> >
> > Argonne Guest House (Marriott Hotel)
> > Argonne National Laboratory
> > 9700 South Cass Avenue - Building 460
> > Argonne, IL 60439
> > Reservations: (800) 632-8990 or (630) 739-6000
> > Fax: (630) 739-1000
> > argonne-guest-house at anl.gov
> > The rate is $65.00
> >
> > GENERAL INFORMATION:
> > You will need to bring your driver's license for entry to the 
> Laboratory.> If you are from a DOE Laboratory, please bring your 
> badge with you. If you
> > will be off-normal hours, please proceed directly to the guard 
> gate. If you
> > are arriving on 8:30-5 Monday through Friday, please stop at the 
> Argonne> Information Center.
> >
> > VISITOR PAGES: http://www-
> fp.mcs.anl.gov/division/information/visitors/> Argonne Home Page: 
> http://www.anl.gov/OPA/anlil.html> Chicago Area Map: 
> http://www.anl.gov/OPA/photo/chimap3.gif> Argonne Site Map: 
> http://www.anl.gov/OPA/ilsitemap.html>
> > Limousine Information:
> > The following are available limousine services between O'Hare or 
> Midway> Airport and ANL. To make advance reservations call: 
> American Limousine
> > 630-920-8888 United Limousine 630/969-3865 or out of state 
> 800/826-034
> >
> > Argonne National Laboratory is about 45 minutes by car from each 
> of the two
> > major Chicago airports, O'Hare and Midway. Limousine service is 
> available> from each airport, and major car rental agencies serve 
> both airports. (Make
> > sure limousine takes you all the way to conference center, 
> hotel, or
> > building destination.)
> 
> My manager and I registered for this conference (thru fax) on Fri. 
> March 21 
> 2003 (see below for the response from anl):
> 
> On March 21, 2003 02:11 pm, you wrote:
> > We have received your registration form for the Access Grid 
> Retreat 2003.
> > Please remember to make your accommodation arrangements directly 
> with the
> > hotel.  The number for the Argonne Guest House is 800. 632.8990 or
> > 630.739.6000.  A block of rooms has been reserved under the 
> meeting name
> > "Access Grid Retreat".  Please reference that when you make your
> > reservation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please enter Argonne at the Northgate entrance on Cass Avenue.  
> If you do
> > not have a U.S. Department of Energy badge, you need to go to 
> the Argonne
> > Information Center, identify yourself as an attendee at the 
> Retreat, and
> > pick up your Gate Pass.  You must prominently display your pass 
> while on
> > site.  After normal business hours and on weekends, your name 
> will be at
> > the Guard Post.  A photo I.D., such as a driver's license or 
> passport, is
> > required for site access.  All vehicles entering the site are 
> subject to
> > search.
> >
> >
> >
> > A second confirmation will be sent to you when your credit is 
> processed for
> > the $85 registration fee.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marianne (630.252.5587)
> 
> On the same day I also booked a flight from Lasvegas to Chicago, 
> since I'm 
> down in vegas for the NAB conference (National Association of 
> Broadcasters). 
> I also did hotel reservations at the hotel on ANL Campus. All this 
> has cost 
> me directly C$1500 (Had to burn my CC since I was buying the 
> ticket online).
> 
> Today I received an Email from Michael Papka telling me that I can 
> NOT attend 
> this years conference because I was born (literally) in the WRONG 
> COUNTRY!!!
> On March 25, 2003 11:24 am, you wrote:
> > Many,
> >
> > New guidance from the DOE requires additional review and 
> approvals for
> > persons from particular countries and this process may take from 
> 60 to 120
> > days to complete.  We regret we cannot accept your registration 
> for the
> > Access Grid Retreat 2003 this year.  We will be happy to provide 
> you with
> > proceedings post-meeting.
> >
> > Michael E. Papka
> > Futures Laboratory
> >
> >
> > The following participant was successfully registered for the 
> Access Grid
> > 2003 Retreat.
> > (remember it is the place of birth, not citizenship at issue now)
> >
> > >Name              : Many  Ayromlou
> > >Company           : Ryerson University
> > >Address           :
> > >350 Victoria Street
> > >City, State ZIP   : Toronto, Ontario, M5B 2K3
> > >Country           : Canada
> > >Phone             : 416-979-5000 x7642
> > >Fax               : 416-979-5203
> > >Email             : mayromlo at ryerson.ca
> > >Track             : developer
> > >Arrival Date      : 04/13/03
> > >Departure Date    : 04/17/03
> > >Registration Type : General ($85)
> > >Special Needs     :
> > >None
> > >
> > >This participant is a Non-U.S. Citizen. The relevant citizenship
> > >information follows.
> > >
> > >Country of Citizenship : Canada
> > >Place of Birth         : Tehran, Iran
> > >Date of Birth          : 09/07/69
> > >Passport               : %%%%%%%
> > >Passport Exipration    : Nov. 01, 2005
> > >Immigrent Alien        : no
> > >Gender                 : male
> > >Duties            :
> > >IT Specialist - ResearchAG
> 
> Now considering that ANL only announced the conrefence URL's on 
> March 1, how 
> was I supposed to get clearance fully 60-120 days prioir. Also why 
> was this 
> not mentioned on the registration website at the time I 
> registered. I've now 
> spent a lot of money out of my own pocket to attend this 
> conference which I 
> can not get back (no refunds on plane ticket and I have no idea 
> what happens 
> to the hotel reservation).
> 
> I was about to send this email out to the list on Tuesday March 
> 25, but I 
> didn't. My manager has since talked to Mary Fritsch and Michael 
> Papka and 
> they have been more than willing to try to help with this matter 
> (Thank you 
> guys). But it turns out that even if the conference was not taking 
> place on 
> ANL grounds, since DOE is sponsering the conference the same rules 
> would 
> apply.
> 
> I have no beef with the ANL staff since they have been trying to 
> get this 
> resolved on my behalf. I just wanted everyone to know....up to 
> this point I  
> thought AccessGrid was a worldwide phenomena.....but apprently not 
> according 
> to DOE.
> 
> Thank you,
> Many Ayromlou
> System Engineer, Research and Projects
> Ryerson University.
> 




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