client preferences

Ivan R. Judson judson at mcs.anl.gov
Thu Nov 18 08:27:38 CST 2004


Makes sense, now I notice them in outlook too :-)

--Ivan 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Olson [mailto:olson at mcs.anl.gov] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:26 AM
> To: judson at mcs.anl.gov
> Cc: 'Susanne Lefvert'; ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov
> Subject: Re: client preferences
> 
> The use of ellipses is standard UI design, on windows anyway.
> 
> cf
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
> us/dnwue/
> html/ch14c.asp in the section on "User interface text".
> 
> > If a command requires additional information to complete 
> its intended 
> > action, and you use a dialog box to supply that information, follow 
> > the command with an ellipsis (.). The ellipsis provides a 
> visual cue 
> > that the command requires additional information.
> 
> --bob
> 
> On Nov 18, 2004, at 8:01 AM, Ivan R. Judson wrote:
> 
> >>> Looks good, here're my suggestions:
> >>>
> >>> 1) try to use a general get(option) => Value, set(option, value),
> >>> list_options() and see if that'll work. I know the type
> >> problems and
> >>> checking can get gross, but this will be more 
> maintainable over time
> >>
> >> I'll change that, shouldn't be a problem.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> 2) remove unicast/multicast from menu, and enable audio/video
> >>
> >> My reason to keep it here is to avoid getting a million 
> users ask how 
> >> to switch over to unicast when the menu item gets removed.  But I 
> >> guess it is better to move them sooner rather than later.  
> Maybe add 
> >> that as a shortcut icon on a toolbar later.
> >
> > That sounds reasonable, it'd be nice to figure out where we put 
> > shortcuts like this and perhaps have a couple for this release :-)
> >
> >>> 3) move Manage My Node (without ...) to the top section.
> >>
> >> Then I would like to remove "..." on every menu item.
> >
> > Go for it, ellipses seem silly to me.
> >
> >>> 4) remove "request a certificate" it's on the cert mgmt ui anyhow
> >>>
> >>> should My Venues be on the Tools menu?
> >>
> >> I would keep that as it is for now since My Venues can 
> grow long and 
> >> would probably look weird if it is placed as a second menu 
> item under 
> >> Tools.
> >> You can say that My Venues is a tool but it can also be 
> viewed as a 
> >> short cut that users should have easy access to (i.e. not 
> hidden in 
> >> sub menus).
> >> Every browser I've looked at has a separate 
> bookmarks/favorites menu 
> >> and since this is similar I would argue to keep it 
> separate (not that 
> >> they are right but I think it feels natural for people to 
> have that).
> >
> > Good argument, I wouldn't move it given your thoughts.
> >
> > --ivan
> >> Thank you for your comments
> >>
> >> Susanne
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> 




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