PIG

Ivan R. Judson judson at mcs.anl.gov
Fri Sep 27 22:24:10 CDT 2002


Do we have a single fixed UCL that can transmit and do direct X and
auto-place and whatever other mods we've made?

--Ivan

..........
Ivan R. Judson .~. http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~judson
Futures Laboratory .~.  630 252 0920
Argonne National Laboratory .~. 630 252 6424 Fax
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Olson [mailto:olson at mcs.anl.gov] 
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:17 PM
> To: Michael E. Papka
> Cc: 'Terry Disz'; judson at mcs.anl.gov; 'Ti Leggett'; 
> 'Ag-Dev at Mcs. Anl. Gov'
> Subject: RE: PIG
> 
> 
> Yes; the UCL crashing on multiprocessor bug has been fixed 
> (patch was sent to ag-tech May-ish). So we need to either 
> switch to the fixed UCL or add encryption support to OMvic. 
> (I'd argue for moving to fixed UCL to reduce the number of 
> different components).
> 
> --bob
> 
> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Michael E. Papka wrote:
> 
> > OM is used in windows pig, ucl vic does not work with 
> multiprocessor 
> > on windows.
> > 
> > Ucl vic is used with linux pig (which has not been released)
> > 
> > Does that clarify?
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov] On 
> > Behalf Of Terry Disz
> > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:58 PM
> > To: judson at mcs.anl.gov; 'Ti Leggett'
> > Cc: 'Ag-Dev at Mcs. Anl. Gov'
> > Subject: RE: PIG
> > 
> > 
> > I was just asking for a definitive answer about what goes 
> out now with 
> > the PIG. Mike's answer seems in conflict with Ti's. Sure, OM seems 
> > like the best choice if the encryption thing gets fixed. I 
> just want 
> > to solve this immediate problem of getting something out to 
> Mary Anne.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Terry
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ivan R. Judson [mailto:judson at mcs.anl.gov]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:54 PM
> > > To: 'Terry Disz'; 'Ti Leggett'
> > > Cc: 'Ag-Dev at Mcs. Anl. Gov'
> > > Subject: RE: PIG
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think the basic reason is we're trying to move from UCL to OM. 
> > > Since
> > 
> > > OM has the latest history of support (although that's scaling back
> > > towards zero too).  The OM stuff is supposed to be getting H.263 
> > > decode any time now; and they have made a lot of changes 
> specifically 
> > > for us, including an interface for autolayout stuff.
> > >
> > > Depending on what Larry says about encryption it might 
> make sense to
> > > still include both (but a single UCL version if we can) while we 
> > > figure out the right thing to do in the long run. Media 
> tools seem to 
> > > be not the project of choice for funding now; we might 
> have to support
> > 
> > > them ourselves until funding reappears, if our platform choices
> > > require it.
> > >
> > > The commercial argument is performance, but if we have to 
> trade-off
> > > options I'd lean towards Quicktime since it works on 
> linux, macs, and 
> > > windows, whereas direct * stuff is windows only. Real 
> isn't a codec 
> > > system, rather content delivery so they don't play in this game 
> > > directly.
> > >
> > > I'd still prefer the open source stuff and OM in particular, but
> > > whatever we gotta do let's optimize for our own cycle 
> count first :-)
> > >
> > > --Ivan
> > >
> > > ..........
> > > Ivan R. Judson .~. http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~judson
> > > Futures Laboratory .~.  630 252 0920
> > > Argonne National Laboratory .~. 630 252 6424 Fax
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov 
> [mailto:owner-ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov] 
> > > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Terry Disz
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:45 PM
> > > > To: Ti Leggett
> > > > Cc: Ag-Dev at Mcs. Anl. Gov
> > > > Subject: RE: PIG
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone know about this for sure? Which VIC goes out with Windows
> > > > PIG? If it is OM, why can't it be UCL?
> > > >
> > > > Terry
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ti Leggett [mailto:leggett at mcs.anl.gov]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:56 AM
> > > > > To: Terry Disz
> > > > > Cc: Ag-Dev at Mcs. Anl. Gov
> > > > > Subject: Re: PIG
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we only use UCL vic for the linux pig, the windows
> > > > pig we have
> > > > > to use OM for some reason or another...?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 13:39, Terry Disz wrote:
> > > > > > Last week in Washington Mary Anne said she would like a PIG
> > > > > system for her
> > > > > > office and asked if I would supply her with the
> > > > requirements. As I
> > > > > > was getting ready to do so, the issue of the OM vic 
> not doing
> > > > > encryption came up
> > > > > > on AG-TECH.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't send her something that doesn't work securely in a
> > > > > secure room, so,
> > > > > > I am wondering what the latest thoughts on this 
> situation are.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know where we stand right now?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are there any plans to a) add encryption to OM or b)
> > > > supply UCL vic
> > > > > > with PIG?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Terry
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ti Leggett <leggett at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> 




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