[petsc-users] Preconditioning Diagnostics

Barry Smith bsmith at petsc.dev
Tue May 3 14:27:07 CDT 2022


  A difficult question with no easy answers. 

  First, do you have a restart system so you can save your state just before your "bad behavior" and run experiments easily at the bad point? 

  You could try to use SLEPc to compute the first few eigenmodes (presumably associated with excessively small eigenvalues) and visualize them? You could restart with and without preconditioning to see how badly the conditioning becomes for both the system and the preconditioned system to help see if the problem comes from just the preconditioner starting to behavior poorly or because the operator starts to behave poorly.

  There should be a way to allow doing this directly from within the KSPSolve trivially with appropriate monitors but I suspect that does not exist because calling SLEPc trivially from PETSc is a nightmare because of the dependency diamond. 

  Barry


> On May 3, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Alfredo J Duarte Gomez <aduarteg at utexas.edu> wrote:
> 
> Good morning PETSC team,
> 
> I have a bit of an open question on diagnosing preconditioner performance.
> 
> For a bit of background, I am using the TS object in combination with the matrix-free snes, and a custom user defined preconditioner (PCSHELL). Everything is implemented with the help of a DMDA. Smallest problem size that I can get away with is a grid with 2.1 million points with 4 fields each, for a total of 8.4 million equations.
> 
> The preconditioner works very well overall, but at some stages of the solution it performs poorly, evidenced by significant increases in the number of GMRES iterations and the maximum/minimum eigenvalue computed using KSPComputeExtremeSingularValues().
> 
> I am trying to understand the locations where the preconditioner is not working well, so for example, is there any way to map the maximum eigenvalue to a particular location/field in the DMDA. Alternatively, are there any other ways of diagnosing where the preconditioner is not doing a good job? 
> 
> GMRES iterations and the max/min eigenvalue provide a good overall picture, but I am struggling to get preconditioner metrics that are specific to a location and field.
> 
> So far I have taken a close look at fields such as the residual, and Newton updates, but it is difficult to tell how to assess these in combination with the preconditioner.
> 
> I appreciate any suggestions.
> 
> Thank you and have a good day.
> 
> -Alfredo
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Alfredo Duarte
> Graduate Research Assistant
> The University of Texas at Austin

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