<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Zhao, Thank you very much for the answers.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>One more question: :)</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Do you know how I can calculate this ? Does this method works regardless of the number of nodes allocated (even with any fraction of pset ) ?</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Thank you</span></div><div><span>Emalayan</span></div><div><br></div>  <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> ZHAO ZHANG <zhaozhang@uchicago.edu><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Emalayan
 Vairavanathan <svemalayan@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Michael Wilde <wilde@mcs.anl.gov>; Justin M Wozniak <wozniak@mcs.anl.gov>; "swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu" <swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 4 March 2012 4:06 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Swift-devel] [ZeptoOS] hostname  returns none in Surveyor<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv921546743">
  

    
  
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    Hi, Emalayan<br>
    <br>
    On 3/4/2012 6:00 PM, Emalayan Vairavanathan wrote:
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        <div><span>Mike, that sounds like a good idea.</span></div>
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        <div><span>Zhao</span><span>, In addition to Mike's questions I
            have two more questions.</span></div>
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          <span></span></div>
        <div><span>1) Is it possible to get/ calculate the MAX_RANK /
            number of nodes in an allocation from persoanlity.h or some
            other data structure  ?</span></div>
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    Yes, you could calculate the MAX_RANK from personality.sh.<br>
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        <div><span>2) Which interface should be configured to have Tours
            ? (Does this matter at all ?)</span></div>
        <div><span>    In your scripts you are configuring eth1. But in
          </span> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.mcs.anl.gov/zeptoos/index.php/Other_Packages">http://wiki.mcs.anl.gov/zeptoos/index.php/Other_Packages</a>
          tun1 is configured.</div>
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    To use the torus network, there are two ways. One is to use the
    12.x.y.z+1 interface, which we have to configure ourselves.<br>
    The other way is to use the "ipfwd.sh", aka the 10.128 interface.
    The drawback of the second interface is it takes up one core<br>
    for polling, and there is some scalability issue beyond 2K compute
    nodes as far as I remember. Mosa could use either of them.<br>
    <br>
    best<br>
    zhao<br>
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        <div>Thank you</div>
        <div>Emalayan<br>
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                <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
                Michael Wilde <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv921546743moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:wilde@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:wilde@mcs.anl.gov"><wilde@mcs.anl.gov></a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> ZHAO
                ZHANG <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv921546743moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:zhaozhang@uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:zhaozhang@uchicago.edu"><zhaozhang@uchicago.edu></a>; Justin M Wozniak
                <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv921546743moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:wozniak@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:wozniak@mcs.anl.gov"><wozniak@mcs.anl.gov></a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b>
                Emalayan Vairavanathan <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv921546743moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:svemalayan@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:svemalayan@yahoo.com"><svemalayan@yahoo.com></a>;
                <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv921546743moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu">swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu</a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                Sunday, 4 March 2012 2:33 PM<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: [Swift-devel] [ZeptoOS] hostname returns none in
                Surveyor<br>
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            Zhao, with this procedure do you get consecutive host IP
            addresses starting from 0.0 through 640*64 in the two low
            order octets?<br>
            <br>
            In other words, does your  just do what this page describes
            under "IP over Torus":<br>
            <br>
              <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.mcs.anl.gov/zeptoos/index.php/Other_Packages">http://wiki.mcs.anl.gov/zeptoos/index.php/Other_Packages</a><br>
            <br>
            Is the "ipfwd.sh" script mentioned there still needed, or
            does that now happen automatically?<br>
            <br>
            If so, perhaps we can greatly simplify the Mosa startup: we
            need only pass the max rank of the running job, and Mosa
            will know that it can use 12.128.0.0 for example.  Then we
            dont need any manual intervention, nor complicated/brittle
            file-waiting logic.<br>
            <br>
            Zhao, I dont understand why your example is using the
            12.0.0.0 network vs the example on the page above which uses
            10.128.0.0. Can you help me understand what is going on
            here? Is the "IP Over Torus" info on the ZeptoOS wiki
            outdated? Or does it describe a different technique?<br>
            <br>
            Justin, have you also mastered similar techniques for JETS? 
            Do we need help form the ZeptoOS team on this?<br>
            <br>
            Thanks,<br>
            <br>
            - Mike<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            ----- Original Message -----<br>
            > From: "ZHAO ZHANG" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:zhaozhang@uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:zhaozhang@uchicago.edu">zhaozhang@uchicago.edu</a>><br>
            > To: "Michael Wilde" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:wilde@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:wilde@mcs.anl.gov">wilde@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
            > Cc: "Emalayan Vairavanathan" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svemalayan@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:svemalayan@yahoo.com">svemalayan@yahoo.com</a>>,
            <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu">swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu</a><br>
            > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:17:18 PM<br>
            > Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] [ZeptoOS] hostname returns
            none in Surveyor<br>
            > Yes, each compute node needs to run this script to
            bring up the<br>
            > network<br>
            > interface.<br>
            > <br>
            > zhao<br>
            > <br>
            > On 3/4/2012 12:53 PM, Michael Wilde wrote:<br>
            > > Thanks, Zhao. Does this need to run on each node
            at startup?<br>
            > ><br>
            > > If so should this logic be integrated into the
            worker startup<br>
            > > script, Jon, Justin, Emalayan?<br>
            > ><br>
            > > Ive not looked at the current scripts much; I
            would think that all<br>
            > > the BG/P specific logic of enabling the torus
            network and finding<br>
            > > each node's IP address on the torus should be done
            in the init<br>
            > > script rather than in the worker.<br>
            > ><br>
            > > - Mike<br>
            > ><br>
            > > ----- Original Message -----<br>
            > >> From: "ZHAO ZHANG"<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:zhaozhang@uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:zhaozhang@uchicago.edu">zhaozhang@uchicago.edu</a>><br>
            > >> To: "Michael Wilde"<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:wilde@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:wilde@mcs.anl.gov">wilde@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
            > >> Cc: "Emalayan Vairavanathan"<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svemalayan@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:svemalayan@yahoo.com">svemalayan@yahoo.com</a>>,<br>
            > >> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu">swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu</a><br>
            > >> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 12:18:28 PM<br>
            > >> Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] [ZeptoOS] hostname
            returns none in<br>
            > >> Surveyor<br>
            > >> Hi, Mike<br>
            > >><br>
            > >> With 192.168.1.*, we could only access the
            tree network. In order<br>
            > >> to<br>
            > >> use<br>
            > >> the torus network, we need to use the
            12.x.y.z+1 ip address. (x, y,<br>
            > >> z<br>
            > >> here is the coordinates of the compute nodes).<br>
            > >> The code below could bring the torus ip
            address up.<br>
            > >><br>
            > >> IP=""<br>
            > >> set_torus_ip()<br>
            > >> {<br>
            > >> x=$1<br>
            > >> y=$2<br>
            > >> z=$3<br>
            > >> z=`expr $3 + 1`<br>
            > >> ifconfig eth1 12.$x.$y.$z netmask 255.0.0.0
            mtu 8996 -arp<br>
            > >> IP=12.$x.$y.$z<br>
            > >> }<br>
            > >> BG_PSETORG=`cat /proc/personality.sh | grep
            BG_PSETORG | cut -d '"'<br>
            > >> -f<br>
            > >> 2`<br>
            > >> echo ${BG_PSETORG}>> /dev/shm/localip<br>
            > >> set_torus_ip $BG_PSETORG<br>
            > >><br>
            > >> best<br>
            > >> zhao<br>
            > >><br>
            > >> On 3/4/2012 10:24 AM, Michael Wilde wrote:<br>
            > >>> Zhao,<br>
            > >>><br>
            > >>> Can you tell us if the nodes on the torus
            network are accessed<br>
            > >>> over<br>
            > >>> the 192.168 network? I just realized they
            cant all be on the<br>
            > >>> 192.168.1 subnet, so I hope I suggested
            the right network here.<br>
            > >>><br>
            > >>> Thanks,<br>
            > >>><br>
            > >>> - Mike<br>
            > >>><br>
            > >>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
            > >>>> From: "Emalayan Vairavanathan"<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:svemalayan@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:svemalayan@yahoo.com">svemalayan@yahoo.com</a>><br>
            > >>>> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu">swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu</a><br>
            > >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:40:53 AM<br>
            > >>>> Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] [ZeptoOS]
            hostname returns none in<br>
            > >>>> Surveyor<br>
            > >>>> Thank you very much Mike. I agree with
            you suggestion. I can do<br>
            > >>>> that<br>
            > >>>> in worker.pl.<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> Thank you<br>
            > >>>> Emalayan<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> From: Michael Wilde<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:wilde@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:wilde@mcs.anl.gov">wilde@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
            > >>>> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:emalayan@ece.ubc.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:emalayan@ece.ubc.ca">emalayan@ece.ubc.ca</a><br>
            > >>>> Cc: swift-devel<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu">swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu</a>><br>
            > >>>> Sent: Saturday, 3 March 2012 7:39 PM<br>
            > >>>> Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] [ZeptoOS]
            hostname returns none in<br>
            > >>>> Surveyor<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> Emalayan,<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> I wasnt paying much attention to the
            actual IP address returned<br>
            > >>>> by<br>
            > >>>> hostname in the zeptoos profile.<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> Since these are the addresses that
            Mosa will communicate over, I<br>
            > >>>> think<br>
            > >>>> you *do* want them to be the
            192.168.1.* addresses of the nodes<br>
            > >>>> on<br>
            > >>>> the<br>
            > >>>> torus network (in other words tun0).<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> So, since both profiles return
            192.168.1.64 for the tun0 IP, I<br>
            > >>>> think<br>
            > >>>> thats what you should use. So try
            replacing `hostname` in<br>
            > >>>> worker.pl<br>
            > >>>> with something like:<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> `ifconfig | grep 192.168 | sed -e
            's/^inet addr://' -e 's/ .*//'`<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> You may have to adapt this a bit to
            meet your needs. Im assuming<br>
            > >>>> that<br>
            > >>>> the only code that will uses these IPs
            is MosaStore.<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> - Mike<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
            > >>>>> From: "Kazutomo Yoshii"< <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kazutomo@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:kazutomo@mcs.anl.gov">kazutomo@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
            > >>>>> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:zeptoos@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:zeptoos@lists.mcs.anl.gov">zeptoos@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a><br>
            > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012
            8:52:00 PM<br>
            > >>>>> Subject: Re: [ZeptoOS] hostname
            returns none in Surveyor<br>
            > >>>>> Hi Emalayan,<br>
            > >>>>><br>
            > >>>>> The zeptoos profile returns the IP
            address of associated I/O<br>
            > >>>>> node,<br>
            > >>>>> which is kind of wrong in my
            opinion (influence of IBM CNK).<br>
            > >>>>> ifconfig on compute nodes returns
            CN's IP address, which is<br>
            > >>>>> correct.<br>
            > >>>>> e.g. tun0 192.168.1.64<br>
            > >>>>><br>
            > >>>>> If you want to find associated
            ION's IP address from CNs,<br>
            > >>>>> do something like this.<br>
            > >>>>><br>
            > >>>>> $ grep BG_IP= /proc/personality.sh<br>
            > >>>>><br>
            > >>>>> - kaz<br>
            > >>>>><br>
            > >>>>> On 03/03/2012 08:25 PM, Emalayan
            Vairavanathan wrote:<br>
            > >>>>>> Hi All,<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> I am trying to run some
            experiments in Surveyor. The software I<br>
            > >>>>>> am<br>
            > >>>>>> using<br>
            > >>>>>> gets the IP-address of
            compute-nodes using hostname command.<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> With zepto-vn-eval/mosatest
            profile hostname command returns<br>
            > >>>>>> none.<br>
            > >>>>>> But with zeptoos profile
            hostname returns the correct IP<br>
            > >>>>>> address.<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> Is this due to some
            configuration issues in<br>
            > >>>>>> zepto-vn-eval/mosatest<br>
            > >>>>>> profile?As a workaround I
            tired to use ifconfig with both<br>
            > >>>>>> profiles,<br>
            > >>>>>> but<br>
            > >>>>>> it seems ifconfig is not
            returning the correct IP address.<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> Is there any command / files
            which I can used to retrieve the<br>
            > >>>>>> hostname<br>
            > >>>>>> on compute nodes? I have
            pasted the console output with both<br>
            > >>>>>> profiles<br>
            > >>>>>> below. Please let me know if
            you need more details.<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> Thank you<br>
            > >>>>>> Emalayan<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> =======================With
            zeptoos profile<br>
            > >>>>>>
            ===============================<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> / # hostname<br>
            > >>>>>> 172.18.3.19<br>
            > >>>>>> / #<br>
            > >>>>>> / # cat
            /proc/sys/kernel/hostname<br>
            > >>>>>> 172.18.3.19<br>
            > >>>>>> / #<br>
            > >>>>>> / #<br>
            > >>>>>> / # ifconfig -a<br>
            > >>>>>> lo Link encap:Local Loopback<br>
            > >>>>>> inet addr:127.0.0.1
            Mask:255.0.0.0<br>
            > >>>>>> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436
            Metric:1<br>
            > >>>>>> RX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0<br>
            > >>>>>> TX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0<br>
            > >>>>>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0<br>
            > >>>>>> RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0
            (0.0 B)<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> tun0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr<br>
            > >>>>>>
            00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00<br>
            > >>>>>> inet addr:192.168.1.64
            P-t-P:192.168.1.254 Mask:255.255.255.255<br>
            > >>>>>> UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP
            MULTICAST MTU:65535 Metric:1<br>
            > >>>>>> RX packets:2662 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0<br>
            > >>>>>> TX packets:1772 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0<br>
            > >>>>>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:500<br>
            > >>>>>> RX bytes:140206 (136.9 KiB) TX
            bytes:125412 (122.4 KiB)<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> =======================With
            zepto-vn-eval/mosatest profile<br>
            > >>>>>>
            ===============================<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> /etc # hostname<br>
            > >>>>>> (none)<br>
            > >>>>>> /etc #<br>
            > >>>>>> /etc # cat
            /proc/sys/kernel/hostname<br>
            > >>>>>> (none)<br>
            > >>>>>> /etc #<br>
            > >>>>>> /etc # ifconfig -a<br>
            > >>>>>> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet
            HWaddr 00:80:46:00:00:00<br>
            > >>>>>> BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500
            Metric:1<br>
            > >>>>>> RX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0<br>
            > >>>>>> TX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0<br>
            > >>>>>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000<br>
            > >>>>>> RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0
            (0.0 B)<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> eth1 Link encap:Ethernet
            HWaddr 00:80:47:00:00:00<br>
            > >>>>>> BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500
            Metric:1<br>
            > >>>>>> RX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0<br>
            > >>>>>> TX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0<br>
            > >>>>>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000<br>
            > >>>>>> RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0
            (0.0 B)<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> lo Link encap:Local Loopback<br>
            > >>>>>> inet addr:127.0.0.1
            Mask:255.0.0.0<br>
            > >>>>>> inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host<br>
            > >>>>>> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436
            Metric:1<br>
            > >>>>>> RX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0<br>
            > >>>>>> TX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0<br>
            > >>>>>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0<br>
            > >>>>>> RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0
            (0.0 B)<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4<br>
            > >>>>>> NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1<br>
            > >>>>>> RX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0<br>
            > >>>>>> TX packets:0 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0<br>
            > >>>>>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0<br>
            > >>>>>> RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0
            (0.0 B)<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>>>> tun0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr<br>
            > >>>>>>
            00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00<br>
            > >>>>>> inet addr:192.168.1.64
            P-t-P:192.168.1.254 Mask:255.255.255.255<br>
            > >>>>>> UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP
            MULTICAST MTU:65535 Metric:1<br>
            > >>>>>> RX packets:965 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0<br>
            > >>>>>> TX packets:627 errors:0
            dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0<br>
            > >>>>>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:500<br>
            > >>>>>> RX bytes:50984 (49.7 KiB) TX
            bytes:50530 (49.3 KiB)<br>
            > >>>>>><br>
            > >>>> --<br>
            > >>>> Michael Wilde<br>
            > >>>> Computation Institute, University of
            Chicago<br>
            > >>>> Mathematics and Computer Science
            Division<br>
            > >>>> Argonne National Laboratory<br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            > >>>> Swift-devel mailing list<br>
            > >>>> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:Swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu">Swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu</a><br>
            > >>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.ci.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swift-devel">https://lists.ci.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swift-devel</a><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>><br>
            > >>>>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            > >>>> Swift-devel mailing list<br>
            > >>>> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:Swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu">Swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu</a><br>
            > >>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.ci.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swift-devel">https://lists.ci.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swift-devel</a><br>
            <br>
            -- <br>
            Michael Wilde<br>
            Computation Institute, University of Chicago<br>
            Mathematics and Computer Science Division<br>
            Argonne National Laboratory<br>
            <br>
            <br>
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