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<b>Sent:</b> 22 March 2025 15:31<br>
<b>To:</b> Joe Alexandersen <joal@sdu.dk><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mark Adams <mfadams@lbl.gov>; Barry Smith <bsmith@petsc.dev>; petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [petsc-users] Semi-coarsening for GMG using DMDA?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 12:09<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Joe Alexandersen via petsc-users <<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Great, thanks for the input so far. We will wait for Matt's response soonish.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looking at the code, as Barry says, it should work. Please let us know if it does not.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You can also do this with Plex, as Mark says. The drawback here is that I do not have code<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">to determine that this kind of refinement is nested. Therefore it will fall back to the slow code<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">for constructing arbitrary interpolators. If you really wanted this, we could improve the interpolator<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Mark Adams <<a href="mailto:mfadams@lbl.gov" target="_blank">mfadams@lbl.gov</a>><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Sent:</span></strong> Thursday, March 20, 2025 5:00:31 pm<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">To:</span></strong> Barry Smith <<a href="mailto:bsmith@petsc.dev" target="_blank">bsmith@petsc.dev</a>><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Cc:</span></strong> Joe Alexandersen <<a href="mailto:joal@sdu.dk" target="_blank">joal@sdu.dk</a>>;
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [petsc-users] Semi-coarsening for GMG using DMDA?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have worked on semi coarsening in DMPlex, but it is not finished and we are not working on it now.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure about how easy it would be in DMDA, but Barry is suggesting that it is doable.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We need to wait for Matt and he is on travel so his response may be delayed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 11:34<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM Barry Smith <<a href="mailto:bsmith@petsc.dev" target="_blank">bsmith@petsc.dev</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> In theory you can do as you propose. In the context below uniform refinement" only means that the coordinates of the DMDA are ignored so each refinement. The interpolation is fine woth different refinements in the different coordinate
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Barry<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear PETSc developers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are working with a code that uses regular meshes (DMDA) and geometric multigrid. We would like to go from uniform coarsening/refinement to semi-coarsening/refinement, due to anisotropy in our underlying equations. We have tried to figure
out if we can do this using built-in functions of PETSc, but it is unclear to us whether we can get it done relatively easily.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It seems that we can go from the coarsest grid and refine differently in each direction using DMDASetRefinementFactor and then use DMRefine to define the finer levels. However, from the doc page for DMCreateInterpolation, it states that
it only works for "uniform refinement" which to me seems to indicate it will not work with different refinement in each direction. But on the other hand, it states that it should work if using DMRefine, which I assume used the information from DMDASetRefinementFactor
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<p class="MsoNormal">So our questions are: is there are feasible and relatively simple way to do semi-coarsening/refinement of DMDAs for geometric multigrid hierarchies? Would the above work?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Joe Alexandersen<o:p></o:p></p>
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