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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Sure, the log file is attached!<br>
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Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Yongzhong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 11:34</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Yongzhong Li <yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Matthew Knepley <knepley@gmail.com>, Pierre Jolivet <pierre@joliv.et>, petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov <petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [petsc-users] [petsc-maint] Assistance Needed with PETSc KSPSolve Performance Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 9:07<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Yongzhong Li <<a href="mailto:yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca">yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Yeah, I ran my program again using -mat_view::ascii_info and set MKL_VERBOSE to be 1, then I noticed the outputs suggested that the matrix
to be seqaijmkl type (I’ve attached a few as below)<br>
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--> Setting up matrix-vector products...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Mat Object: 1 MPI process</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> type: seqaijmkl</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> rows=16490, cols=35937</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> total: nonzeros=128496, allocated nonzeros=128496</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls=0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> not using I-node routines</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Mat Object: 1 MPI process</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> type: seqaijmkl</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> rows=16490, cols=35937</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> total: nonzeros=128496, allocated nonzeros=128496</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls=0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> not using I-node routines</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">--> Solving the system...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Excitation 1 of 1...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">================================================</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Iterative solve completed in 7435 ms.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">CONVERGED: rtol.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Iterations: 72</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Final relative residual norm: 9.22287e-07</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">================================================</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">[CPU TIME] System solution: 2.27160000e+02 s.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">[WALL TIME] System solution: 7.44387218e+00 s.<br>
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However, it seems to me that there were still no MKL outputs even I set MKL_VERBOSE to be 1. Although, I think it should be many spmv operations when doing KSPSolve(). Do you see the possible reasons?<br>
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Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Yongzhong</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 5:56</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Yongzhong Li <<a href="mailto:yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Junchao Zhang <<a href="mailto:junchao.zhang@gmail.com" target="_blank">junchao.zhang@gmail.com</a>>, Pierre Jolivet <<a href="mailto:pierre@joliv.et" target="_blank">pierre@joliv.et</a>>,
<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [petsc-users] [petsc-maint] Assistance Needed with PETSc KSPSolve Performance Issue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 5:03<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Yongzhong Li <<a href="mailto:yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">MKL_VERBOSE=1 ./ex1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">matrix nonzeros = 100, allocated nonzeros = 100</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE Intel(R) MKL 2019.0 Update 4 Product build 20190411 for Intel(R) 64 architecture Intel(R) Advanced Vector Extensions 512 (Intel(R) AVX-512)
with support of Vector Neural Network Instructions enabled processors, Lnx 2.50GHz lp64 gnu_thread</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGEMV(N,10,10,0x7ffd9d7078f0,0x187eb20,10,0x187f7c0,1,0x7ffd9d707900,0x187ff70,1) 167.34ms CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZSYTRF(L,10,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0x7ffd9d7078c0,-1,0) 77.19ms CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZSYTRF(L,10,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0x1894490,10,0) 83.97ms CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZSYTRS(L,10,1,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0x1880720,10,0) 44.94ms CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZAXPY(10,0x7ffd9d7078f0,0x187f7c0,1,0x1880720,1) 20.72us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZSYTRS(L,10,2,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0x187d2a0,10,0) 4.22us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGEMM(N,N,10,2,10,0x7ffd9d707790,0x187eb20,10,0x187d2a0,10,0x7ffd9d7077a0,0x1896a70,10) 1.41ms CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZAXPY(20,0x7ffd9d7078a0,0x1896a70,1,0x187b650,1) 381ns CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZSYTRF(L,10,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0x7ffd9d707840,-1,0) 742ns CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZSYTRS(L,10,1,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0x1880720,10,0) 2.94us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZAXPY(10,0x7ffd9d7078f0,0x187f7c0,1,0x1880720,1) 292ns CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGEMV(N,10,10,0x7ffd9d7078f0,0x187eb20,10,0x187f7c0,1,0x7ffd9d707900,0x187ff70,1) 1.17us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGETRF(10,10,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0) 202.48ms CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGETRS(N,10,1,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0x1880720,10,0) 20.78ms CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZAXPY(10,0x7ffd9d7078f0,0x187f7c0,1,0x1880720,1) 954ns CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGETRS(N,10,2,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0x187d2a0,10,0) 30.74ms CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGEMM(N,N,10,2,10,0x7ffd9d707790,0x187eb20,10,0x187d2a0,10,0x7ffd9d7077a0,0x18969c0,10) 3.95us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZAXPY(20,0x7ffd9d7078a0,0x18969c0,1,0x187b650,1) 995ns CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGETRF(10,10,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0) 4.09us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGETRS(N,10,1,0x1894b50,10,0x1893df0,0x1880720,10,0) 3.92us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGEMV(N,15,10,0x7ffd9d7078f0,0x187ec70,15,0x187fc30,1,0x7ffd9d707900,0x1880400,1) 1.59us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGEQRF(15,10,0x1894b40,15,0x1894550,0x7ffd9d707900,-1,0) 47.07us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGEQRF(15,10,0x1894b40,15,0x1894550,0x1895cb0,10,0) 26.62us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZUNMQR(L,C,15,1,10,0x1894b40,15,0x1894550,0x1895b00,15,0x7ffd9d7078b0,-1,0) 35.32us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZTRTRS(U,N,N,10,1,0x1894b40,15,0x1895b00,15,0) 16.11us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZAXPY(10,0x7ffd9d7078f0,0x187fc30,1,0x1880c70,1) 395ns CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGEMM(N,N,15,2,10,0x7ffd9d707790,0x187ec70,15,0x187d310,10,0x7ffd9d7077a0,0x187b5b0,15) 3.22us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZUNMQR(L,C,15,2,10,0x1894b40,15,0x1894550,0x1897760,15,0x7ffd9d7078c0,-1,0) 730ns CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZGEQRF(15,10,0x1894b40,15,0x18954b0,0x1895d60,10,0) 6.11us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZUNMQR(L,C,15,1,10,0x1894b40,15,0x18954b0,0x1895bb0,15,0x7ffd9d7078b0,-1,0) 390ns CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MKL_VERBOSE ZUNMQR(L,C,15,1,10,0x1894b40,15,0x18954b0,0x1895bb0,15,0x1895d60,10,0) 3.09us CNR:OFF Dyn:1 FastMM:1 TID:0 NThr:1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes, for petsc example, there are MKL outputs, but for my own program. All I did is to change the matrix type from MATAIJ to MATAIJMKL to get optimized performance for spmv from MKL. Should I expect to see any MKL outputs in this case?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Are you sure that the type changed? You can MatView() the matrix with format ascii_info to see.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Yongzhong</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="color:black">Junchao Zhang <<a href="mailto:junchao.zhang@gmail.com" target="_blank">junchao.zhang@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 9:40</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Yongzhong Li <<a href="mailto:yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Pierre Jolivet <<a href="mailto:pierre@joliv.et" target="_blank">pierre@joliv.et</a>>,
<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [petsc-users] [petsc-maint] Assistance Needed with PETSc KSPSolve Performance Issue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">No, you don't. It is strange. Perhaps you can you run a petsc example first and see if MKL is really used<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, June 21, 2024 at 1:47</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">PM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [petsc-users] [petsc-maint] Assistance Needed with PETSc KSPSolve Performance Issue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">MKL_VERBOSE oneMKL 2024.0 Update 1 Product build 20240215 for Intel(R) 64 architecture Intel(R) Advanced Vector Extensions 2 (Intel(R) AVX2) enabled processors, Lnx 2.80GHz lp64
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I set MKL_VERBOSE = 1, but observed no print output specific to the use of MKL. Does PETSc enable this verbose output?<br>
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<b>Cc:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Yongzhong Li <<a href="mailto:yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>,<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a><span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [petsc-users] [petsc-maint] Assistance Needed with PETSc KSPSolve Performance Issue<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 21 Jun 2024, at 6:42<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM, Junchao Zhang <<a href="mailto:junchao.zhang@gmail.com" target="_blank">junchao.zhang@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Hi Barry, sorry for my last results. I didn’t fully understand the stage profiling and logging in PETSc, now I
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b, x);</b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span>stageCounter++;<br>
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I have attached my new logging results, there are 1 main stage and 4 other stages where each one is KSPSolve() call.<br>
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To provide some additional backgrounds, if you recall, I have been trying to get efficient iterative solution using multithreading. I found out by compiling PETSc with Intel MKL library instead of OpenBLAS, I am able to perform sparse matrix-vector multiplication
faster, I am using MATSEQAIJMKL. This makes the shell matrix vector product in each iteration scale well with the #of threads. However, I found out the total GMERS solve time (~KSPSolve() time) is not scaling well the #of threads.<br>
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>From the logging results I learned that when performing KSPSolve(), there are some CPU overheads in PCApply() and KSPGMERSOrthog(). I ran my programs using different number of threads and plotted the time consumption for PCApply() and KSPGMERSOrthog() against
#of thread. I found out these two operations are not scaling with the threads at all! My results are attached as the pdf to give you a clear view.<br>
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My questions is,<br>
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>From my understanding, in PCApply, MatSolve() is involved, KSPGMERSOrthog() will have many vector operations, so why these two parts can’t scale well with the # of threads when the intel MKL library is linked?<br>
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Thank you,<br>
Yongzhong</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">From:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Barry
Smith <</span><a href="mailto:bsmith@petsc.dev" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">bsmith@petsc.dev</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">><br>
<b>Date:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, June 14, 2024 at 11:36</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">AM<br>
<b>To:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Yongzhong Li <</span><a href="mailto:yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">><br>
<b>Cc:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</span></a><span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> </span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><</span><a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">>,<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:petsc-maint@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">petsc-maint@mcs.anl.gov</span></a><span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> </span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><</span><a href="mailto:petsc-maint@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">petsc-maint@mcs.anl.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">>,
Piero Triverio <</span><a href="mailto:piero.triverio@utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">piero.triverio@utoronto.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [petsc-maint] Assistance Needed with PETSc KSPSolve Performance Issue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> I am a bit confused. Without the initial guess computation, there are still a bunch of events I don't understand </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">MatTranspose 79 1.0 4.0598e+01 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 0.0e+00 0.0e+00 0.0e+00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">in addition there are many more VecMAXPY then VecMDot (in GMRES they are each done the same number of times)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Finally there are a huge number of </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Are you making calls to all these routines? Are you doing this inside your MatMult() or before you call KSPSolve?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">The reason I wanted you to make a simpler run without the initial guess code is that your events are far more complicated than
would be produced by GMRES alone so it is not possible to understand the behavior you are seeing without fully understanding all the events happening in the code.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span>Barry</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">On Jun 14, 2024, at 1:19</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">AM,
Yongzhong Li <</span><a href="mailto:yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Thanks, I have attached the results without using any KSPGuess. At low frequency, the iteration steps are quite
close to the one with KSPGuess, specifically<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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KSPGuess Object: 1 MPI process</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span>Model
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However, I found at higher frequency, the # of iteration steps are significant higher than the one with KSPGuess, I have attahced both of the results for your reference.<br>
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Moreover, could I ask why the one without the KSPGuess options can be used for a baseline comparsion? What are we comparing here? How does it relate to the performance issue/bottleneck I found? “</span><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">I
have noticed that the time taken by </span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">KSPSolve</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> is<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">almost
two times<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">greater than the CPU time for matrix-vector product multiplied
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<b>Subject:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [petsc-maint] Assistance Needed with PETSc KSPSolve Performance Issue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580apple-converted-space"> </span>Can you please run
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">On Jun 13, 2024, at 1:27</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">PM,
Yongzhong Li <</span><a href="mailto:yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">yongzhong.li@mail.utoronto.ca</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Hi Matt,<br>
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I have rerun the program with the keys you provided. The system output when performing ksp solve and the final petsc log output were stored in a .txt file attached for your reference.<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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<b>Date:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 6:46</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">PM<br>
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<b>Subject:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [petsc-maint] Assistance Needed with PETSc KSPSolve Performance Issue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Specifically,<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span><b>I have noticed that the time taken by </b></span><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">KSPSolve</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> is<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">almost
two times<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">greater than the CPU time for matrix-vector product multiplied
by the number of iteration steps</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">.<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">I
use C++ chrono to record CPU time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">For context, I am using a shell system matrix</span><span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">A</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">.
Despite my efforts to<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">parallelize</span><span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> </span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">the
matrix-vector product</span><span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">(Ax)</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">,
the overall solve time remains higher</span><span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">than
the matrix vector product per iteration indicates when multiple threads were used</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">. Here are a few details of my setup:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Matrix Type</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">: Shell system matrix</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Preconditioner</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Shell
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<b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Parallel Environment</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">:<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Using
Intel MKL as PETSc’s BLAS/LAPACK library, multithreading is enabled</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">I have considered several potential reasons, such as preconditioner setup, additional solver operations, and the
inherent overhead of using a shell system matrix.<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span><b>However, since KSPSolve is a high-level API, I have been unable to pinpoint the
exact cause of the increased solve time.</b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Have you observed the same issue?<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Could
you</span><span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">please<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">provide
some<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">experience<span class="m-2712463286655040076m1825240119000957322m-6075196701903926580m-4861803116733450987apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">on
how to diagnose and address this performance discrepancy? Any insights or recommendations you could offer would be greatly appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">For any performance question like this, we need to see the output of your code run with</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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