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Samar After a second look, I believe the petsc4py code is correct. You can test it using the script below. After destroy is called (or del), the reference count of the numpy array is back to its initial state. Maybe you are not calling del
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<div dir="ltr">Samar<div><br></div><div>After a second look, I believe the petsc4py code is correct. You can test it using the script below.</div><div>After destroy is called (or del), the reference count of the numpy array is back to its initial state.</div><div>Maybe you are not calling del or destroy? a MWE would help to understand your use case</div><div>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:21px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:21px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">kl-18448:~ szampini$ cat t.py</span></p>
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<div>Thanks for looking into this. Since createWithArray calls VecCreateMPIWithArray which, as Matt noted and is documented (<a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/main/manualpages/Vec/VecCreateMPIWithArray/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Z9RkH5ffTuJDtBUf8_Gk0BHuG__BKv4jPYeg89Rp6_GcS9VTcFs2J8uyLd5_wiqdDmy9ABXjczA3PYB1raRliVrs4DeDixY$" target="_blank">https://petsc.org/main/manualpages/Vec/VecCreateMPIWithArray/</a>)
doesn’t free the memory, then there’s a memory leak (and, furthermore, calling del on the original array will have no effect).</div>
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<div>Lisandro: would be great if you can provide some guidance.</div>
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<div>On May 3, 2024, at 12:45 PM, Stefano Zampini <<a href="mailto:stefano.zampini@gmail.com" target="_blank">stefano.zampini@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">While waiting for our Python wizard to shed light on this, I note that, from the documentation of PyArray_FROM_OTF <a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://numpy.org/devdocs/user/c-info.how-to-extend.html*converting-an-arbitrary-sequence-object__;Iw!!G_uCfscf7eWS!Z9RkH5ffTuJDtBUf8_Gk0BHuG__BKv4jPYeg89Rp6_GcS9VTcFs2J8uyLd5_wiqdDmy9ABXjczA3PYB1raRliVrsskf0ioU$" target="_blank">https://numpy.org/devdocs/user/c-info.how-to-extend.html#converting-an-arbitrary-sequence-object</a>,
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<div>The object can be any Python object convertible to an ndarray. If the object is already (a subclass of) the ndarray that satisfies the requirements then a new reference is returned.</div>
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<div>I guess we should call "del" on the ndarray returned by iarray_s after having called self.set_attr('__array__', array) in this case, but let's wait for Lisandro to confirm</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno ven 3 mag 2024 alle ore 11:42 Samar Khatiwala <<a href="mailto:samar.khatiwala@earth.ox.ac.uk" target="_blank">samar.khatiwala@earth.ox.ac.uk</a>> ha scritto:<br>
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Hi Matt, Thanks so much for the quick reply! Regarding #2, I put some debug statement in my code and what I find is that when I use createWithArray on my Cython-allocated numpy array, the destructor I set for it is no longer called when I delete
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<div>Regarding #2, I put some debug statement in my code and what I find is that when I use <font face="sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">createWithArray on my Cython-allocated numpy array, the destructor I set for it is no longer called when I
delete the array. (If I don’t use </span></font><span style="font-family:sans-serif;white-space:pre-wrap">createWithArray then the destructor is triggered.)
</span><font face="sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">I interpret that to suggest that the petsc4py Vec is somehow ’taking over’ management of the numpy array. But I don’t understand where that could be happening. (I don’t think it has to do with
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</span>iarray_s which in turn calls PyArray_FROM_OTF. Could it be there’s something going on there? The numpy documentation is unclear. </div>
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<div>Lisandro: do you have any thoughts on this?</div>
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I have a couple of questions about createWithArray in petsc4py:
1) What is the correct usage for creating a standard MPI Vec with it? Something like this seems to work but is it right?:
On each rank do:
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v = PETSc.Vec().createWithArray(a, comm=PETSc.COMM_WORLD)
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<pre style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap">2) Who ‘owns’ the underlying memory for a Vec created with the createWithArray method, i.e., who is responsible for managing it and doing garbage collection? In my problem, the numpy array is created in a Cython module where memory is allocated, and a pointer to it is associated with a numpy ndarray via PyArray_SimpleNewFromData and PyArray_SetBaseObject. I have a deallocator method of my own that is called when the numpy array is deleted/goes out of scope/whenever python does garbage collection. All of that works fine. But if I use this array to create a Vec with createWithArray what happens when the Vec is, e.g., destroyed? Will my deallocator be called? </pre>
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<div>No. The PETSc struct will be deallocated, but the storage will not be touched. </div>
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<pre style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap">Or does petsc4py know that it doesn’t own the memory and won’t attempt to free it? I can’t quite figure out from the petsc4py code what is going on. And help would be appreciated.
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