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0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Thanks for your reply. I see this mismatch. In fact my global DoF is 324. It seems like I always get the local size = global Dof / np^2, np is my processor number. By the way, I used DMDASNESsetFunctionLocal() to set my form function. Is it eligible to mix DMDASNESsetFunctionLocal() and a native SNESSetJacobian()?</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Yes</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Best,</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Yi<br></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">On 3/10/24 13:55, Mark Adams wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CADOhEh4G4PU5WwW+uqBnJ0EyD+PgaiY7CrF2SNkyZQ0wNx1LyQ@mail.gmail.com" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><pre style="font-size: 17.8px; font-family: sans-serif;">It looks like your input vector is the global vector, size 162, and the local matrix size is 81.</pre><pre style="font-size: 17.8px; font-family: sans-serif;">Mark</pre><pre style="font-size: 17.8px; font-family: sans-serif;">[1]PETSC ERROR: Preconditioner number of local rows 81 does not equal 
input vector size 162</pre></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 7:21 AM Yi Hu <<a href="mailto:y.hu@mpie.de" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">y.hu@mpie.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="msg-4788138792073467353"><div dir="ltr" id="m_-4788138792073467353pfptBanner2satfg2" style="display: block; text-align: left; margin: 16px 0px; padding: 8px 16px; border-radius: 4px; min-width: 200px; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); border-top-width: 4px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(144, 164, 174);"><div id="m_-4788138792073467353pfptBanner2satfg2" style="float: left; display: block; margin: 0px 0px 1px; max-width: 600px;"><div id="m_-4788138792073467353pfptBanner2satfg2" style="display: block; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;">This Message Is From an External Sender<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div id="m_-4788138792073467353pfptBanner2satfg2" style="font-weight: normal; display: block; background-color: rgb(208, 216, 220); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 2px;">This message came from outside your organization.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div></div><div style="height: 0px; clear: both; display: block; line-height: 0; font-size: 0.01px;"> </div></div><div><pre style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 18px; white-space: pre-wrap;">Dear petsc team,

I implemented a matrix-free jacobian, and it can run sequentially. But 
running parallel I got the pc error like this (running with mpirun -np 
2, only error from rank1 is presented here)

[1]PETSC ERROR: --------------------- Error Message 
--------------------------------------------------------------
[1]PETSC ERROR: Nonconforming object sizes
[1]PETSC ERROR: Preconditioner number of local rows 81 does not equal 
input vector size 162
[1]PETSC ERROR: See <a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/faq/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!ahmistzr4wD3TJ0OvI0JWxB9aVSIbP78Jcs2X_6KMb4LdoR8drLB_DkHvaguhrca22RgFer0PlyUrtdfCA$" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/faq/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!ahmistzr4wD3TJ0OvI0JWxB9aVSIbP78Jcs2X_6KMb4LdoR8drLB_DkHvaguhrca22RgFer0PlyUrtdfCA$</a> for trouble shooting.
[1]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 3.17.3, Jun 29, 2022
[1]PETSC ERROR: /home/yi/workspace/DAMASK_yi/bin/DAMASK_grid on a 
arch-linux-c-opt named carbon-x1 by yi Sun Mar 10 12:01:46 2024
[1]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --download-fftw --download-hdf5 
--with-hdf5-fortran-bindings --download-fblaslapack --download-chaco 
--download-hypre --download-metis --download-mumps --download-parmetis 
--download-scalapack --download-suitesparse --download-superlu 
--download-superlu_dist --download-triangle --download-zlib 
--download-cmake --with-cxx-dialect=C++11 --with-c2html=0 
--with-debugging=0 --with-ssl=0 --with-x=0 COPTFLAGS=-O3 CXXOPTFLAGS=-O3 
FOPTFLAGS=-O3
[1]PETSC ERROR: #1 PCApply() at 
/home/yi/App/petsc-3.17.3/src/ksp/pc/interface/precon.c:424
[1]PETSC ERROR: #2 KSP_PCApply() at 
/home/yi/App/petsc-3.17.3/include/petsc/private/kspimpl.h:376
[1]PETSC ERROR: #3 KSPInitialResidual() at 
/home/yi/App/petsc-3.17.3/src/ksp/ksp/interface/itres.c:64
[1]PETSC ERROR: #4 KSPSolve_GMRES() at 
/home/yi/App/petsc-3.17.3/src/ksp/ksp/impls/gmres/gmres.c:242
[1]PETSC ERROR: #5 KSPSolve_Private() at 
/home/yi/App/petsc-3.17.3/src/ksp/ksp/interface/itfunc.c:902
[1]PETSC ERROR: #6 KSPSolve() at 
/home/yi/App/petsc-3.17.3/src/ksp/ksp/interface/itfunc.c:1078
[1]PETSC ERROR: #7 SNESSolve_NEWTONLS() at 
/home/yi/App/petsc-3.17.3/src/snes/impls/ls/ls.c:222
[1]PETSC ERROR: #8 SNESSolve() at 
/home/yi/App/petsc-3.17.3/src/snes/interface/snes.c:4756
[1]PETSC ERROR: #9 User provided function() at User <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="file:///0">file:0</a>

However, from snes matrix-free documentation 
(<a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manual/snes/*matrix-free-methods__;Iw!!G_uCfscf7eWS!ahmistzr4wD3TJ0OvI0JWxB9aVSIbP78Jcs2X_6KMb4LdoR8drLB_DkHvaguhrca22RgFer0Ply6ZbywOw$" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://petsc.org/release/manual/snes/*matrix-free-methods__;Iw!!G_uCfscf7eWS!ahmistzr4wD3TJ0OvI0JWxB9aVSIbP78Jcs2X_6KMb4LdoR8drLB_DkHvaguhrca22RgFer0Ply6ZbywOw$</a>), it is said 
matrix-free is used with pcnone. So I assume it would not apply 
preconditioner, but it did use preconditioning probably the same as my 
matrix-free shell matrix. Here is how i initialize my shell matrix and 
the corresponding customized multiplication.

   call MatCreateShell(PETSC_COMM_WORLD,PETSC_DECIDE,PETSC_DECIDE,&
int(9*product(cells(1:2))*cells3,pPETSCINT),&
int(9*product(cells(1:2))*cells3,pPETSCINT),&
                       F_PETSc,Jac_PETSc,err_PETSc)
   call MatShellSetOperation(Jac_PETSc,MATOP_MULT,GK_op,err_PETSc)
   call SNESSetDM(SNES_mech,DM_mech,err_PETSc)
   call 
SNESSetJacobian(SNES_mech,Jac_PETSc,Jac_PETSc,PETSC_NULL_FUNCTION,0,err_PETSc)
   call SNESGetKSP(SNES_mech,ksp,err_PETSc)
   call PCSetType(pc,PCNONE,err_PETSc)

And my GK_op is like

subroutine GK_op(Jac,dF_global,output_local,err_PETSc)

   DM                                   :: dm_local
   Vec                                  :: dF_global, dF_local, output_local
   Mat                                  :: Jac
   PetscErrorCode                       :: err_PETSc

   real(pREAL), pointer,dimension(:,:,:,:) :: dF_scal, output_scal

   real(pREAL), dimension(3,3,cells(1),cells(2),cells3) :: &
     dF
   real(pREAL), dimension(3,3,cells(1),cells(2),cells3) :: &
     output

   call SNESGetDM(SNES_mech,dm_local,err_PETSc)

   call DMGetLocalVector(dm_local,dF_local,err_PETSc)
   call 
DMGlobalToLocalBegin(dm_local,dF_global,INSERT_VALUES,dF_local,err_PETSc)
   call 
DMGlobalToLocalEnd(dm_local,dF_global,INSERT_VALUES,dF_local,err_PETSc)

   call DMDAVecGetArrayReadF90(dm_local,dF_local,dF_scal,err_PETSc)
   dF = reshape(dF_scal, [3,3,cells(1),cells(2),cells3])

.......


   call DMDAVecRestoreArrayF90(dm_local,output_local,output_scal,err_PETSc)
   CHKERRQ(err_PETSc)

   call DMDAVecRestoreArrayF90(dm_local,dF_local,dF_scal,err_PETSc)
   CHKERRQ(err_PETSc)

end subroutine GK_op

I checked my cells3, it corresponds to my local size, and it seems the 
local size of dF_local is ok.

I am a bit lost here to find the reason for the preconditioner bug. 
Could you help me on this? Thanks.

Best regards,

Yi




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D-40237 Düsseldorf
 
Handelsregister B 2533 
Amtsgericht Düsseldorf
 
Geschäftsführung
Prof. Dr. Gerhard Dehm
Prof. Dr. Jörg Neugebauer
Prof. Dr. Dierk Raabe
Dr. Kai de Weldige
 
Ust.-Id.-Nr.: DE 11 93 58 514 
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