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That makes sense. Here are the arguments that I think are relevant:</div>
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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Consolas, Courier, monospace; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><code>-fieldsplit_1_pc_type redundant -fieldsplit_0_pc_type sor -pc_type fieldsplit -pc_fieldsplit_detect_coupling</code></span></div>
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What would you suggest to make this better?</div>
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Also, note that the cases marked "serial" are running on CPU only, that is, using only the SERIAL backend for kokkos.<br>
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<div>Hi, Philip,</div>
<div> I opened hpcdb-PSI_9-serial and it seems you used PCLU. Since Kokkos does not have a GPU LU implementation, we do it on CPU via <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Menlo,Monaco,"Courier New",monospace; font-size:14px; white-space:pre">MatLUFactorNumeric_SeqAIJ()</span>.
Perhaps you can try other PC types?</div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Consolas,Courier,monospace; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">I definitely dropped the ball on this. I'm sorry for that. I have new profiling data using the latest (as of yesterday) of petsc/main. I've put them in a single google
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 16, 2023 15:24<br>
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<div> That branch was merged to petsc/main today. Let me know once you have new profiling results.</div>
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I've attached updated timing plots (red and blue are swapped from before; yellow is the new one). There is an improvement for the NE_3 case only with CUDA. Serial stays the same, and the PSI cases stay the same. In the PSI cases, MatShift doesn't show up (I
assume because we're using different preconditioner arguments). So, there must be some other primary culprit. I'll try to get updated profiling data to you soon.</div>
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<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a>>;
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 11, 2023 10:14<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a>>;
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<div> Could you try this branch jczhang/2023-10-05/feature-support-matshift-aijkokkos ?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 4:52 PM Fackler, Philip <<a href="mailto:facklerpw@ornl.gov" target="_blank">facklerpw@ornl.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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Aha! That makes sense. Thank you.<br>
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<div> I looked at the hpcdb-NE_3-cuda file. It seems you used MatSetValues() instead of the COO interface? MatSetValues() needs to copy the data from device to host and thus is expensive.</div>
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<div> I will look into the tarballs and get back to you.</div>
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Attached are two plots that show timings for three different cases. All of these were run on Ascent (the Summit-like training system) with 6 MPI tasks (on a single node). The CUDA cases were given one GPU per task (and used CUDA-aware MPI). The labels on the
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The performance of RHSJacobian (where the bulk of computation happens in xolotl) behaved basically as expected (better than expected in the serial build). NE_3 case in CUDA was the only one that performed worse, but not surprisingly, since its workload for
the GPUs is much smaller. We've still got more optimization to do on this.<br>
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The real surprise was how much worse the overall solve times were. This seems to be due simply to switching to the kokkos-based implementation. I'm wondering if there are any changes we can make in configuration or runtime arguments to help with PETSc's performance
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The tarballs linked <a href="https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_19X-5FL3SVkGBM9YUzXnRR-5FkVWFG0JFwqZ3_view-3Fusp-3Ddrive-5Flink&d=DwMFaQ&c=v4IIwRuZAmwupIjowmMWUmLasxPEgYsgNI-O7C4ViYc&r=DAkLCjn8leYU-uJ-kfNEQMhPZWx9lzc4d5KgIR-RZWQ&m=GTpC2k9hIdMhUg_aJkeAqd-1CP5M8bwJMJjTriVE1k-j36ZnEHerQkZOzszxWoG2&s=GW0ImGWhWr4rR5AoSULCnaP1CN1QWxTSeMDhdOuhTEA&e=" title="https://drive.google.com/file/d/19X_L3SVkGBM9YUzXnRR_kVWFG0JFwqZ3/view?usp=drive_link" id="x_m_-2898426731964781079x_m_3053484003997947275x_x_m_972965047420409840x_m_4560154858951847936m_2345933986412643521m_3364327590849106712LPNoLPOWALinkPreview" target="_blank">
here</a> and <a href="https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_15yDBN7-2DYlO1g6RJNPYNImzr611i1Ffhv_view-3Fusp-3Ddrive-5Flink&d=DwMFaQ&c=v4IIwRuZAmwupIjowmMWUmLasxPEgYsgNI-O7C4ViYc&r=DAkLCjn8leYU-uJ-kfNEQMhPZWx9lzc4d5KgIR-RZWQ&m=GTpC2k9hIdMhUg_aJkeAqd-1CP5M8bwJMJjTriVE1k-j36ZnEHerQkZOzszxWoG2&s=tO-BnNY2myA-pIsRnBjQNoaOSjn-B3-lWGiQp7XXJwk&e=" title="https://drive.google.com/file/d/15yDBN7-YlO1g6RJNPYNImzr611i1Ffhv/view?usp=drive_link" id="x_m_-2898426731964781079x_m_3053484003997947275x_x_m_972965047420409840x_m_4560154858951847936m_2345933986412643521m_3364327590849106712LPNoLPOWALinkPreview_1" target="_blank">
here</a> are profiling databases which, once extracted, can be viewed with hpcviewer. I don't know how helpful that will be, but hopefully it can give you some direction.</div>
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