<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 8:59 PM Bhargav Subramanya <<a href="mailto:bhargav.subramanya@kaust.edu.sa">bhargav.subramanya@kaust.edu.sa</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div><br></div><div>I am trying to solve Ax = b in parallel using MUMPS, where x is composed of velocity, pressure, and temperature. There is a null space due to the homogeneous Neumann pressure boundary conditions. </div><div><br></div><div>1. Without explicitly removing the null space, the solution is bounded and robust, and I am able to iterate in time, although I need to check if the solution is physically correct. I am not sure if MUMPS is able to detect the null space in this case. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>MUMPS should fail with a 0 pivot. I do not understand this.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>2. However, when I explicitly use MatSetNullSpace as shown below, the solution blows up in 2-3 temporal iterations, resulting in nan. Could you please share your thoughts regarding this problem?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Did you check that this is a nullspace vector using <a href="https://petsc.org/main/docs/manualpages/Mat/MatNullSpaceTest.html">https://petsc.org/main/docs/manualpages/Mat/MatNullSpaceTest.html</a> ?</div><div><br></div><div>  Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>     Matt</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks,</div><div>Bhargav</div><div><br></div><div>---------------</div><div>Output for -pc_type svd -pc_svd_monitor </div><div><div>SVD: condition number 3.159257564649e+16, 1 of 1080 singular values are (nearly) zero<br>    SVD: smallest singular values: 3.693890048955e-17 2.902795363876e-10 2.902795486255e-10 2.902796682780e-10 7.614221123356e-10<br>    SVD: largest singular values : 1.166981958972e+00 1.166981958972e+00 1.166995008014e+00 1.166995008014e+00 1.166995008014e+00</div></div><div>-----------------</div><div>





<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="color:rgb(0,80,50)">PetscErrorCode</span> <b>SetNullVector</b>(<span style="color:rgb(0,80,50)">Mat</span> MatGlobalLinear,<span style="color:rgb(0,80,50)">Mesh</span> mesh,<span style="color:rgb(0,80,50)">Equations</span> eq){</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span><span style="color:rgb(0,80,50)">Vec</span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">       </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>NullVector;</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span><span style="color:rgb(0,80,50)">PetscInt</span> <span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>numNullVectors,disp,i,j;</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span><span style="color:rgb(0,80,50)">PetscScalar</span> <span style="white-space:pre-wrap">      </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>constantValue = 1.0,nrm;</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span><span style="color:rgb(0,80,50)">MatNullSpace</span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">      </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>NullSp = NULL;</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,80,50)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span>PetscErrorCode<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">      </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>ierr;</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;min-height:19px"><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>PetscFunctionBeginUser;</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>numNullVectors = 1;</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>disp = mesh.<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)">numLayers</span>*mesh.<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)">numEdges</span> + (eq.<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)">pressure</span>-1)*mesh.<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)">numCells</span>;</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>ierr = <span style="color:rgb(100,40,128)"><b>MatCreateVecs</b></span>(MatGlobalLinear,&NullVector,NULL);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span><span style="color:rgb(127,0,85)"><b>for</b></span>(i=0; i<mesh.<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)">numLayers</span>; i++){</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span><span style="color:rgb(127,0,85)"><b>for</b></span>(j=0; j<mesh.<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)">numCells</span>; j++){</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>ierr = VecSetValue(NullVector,j + i*mesh.<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)">numCells</span> + disp,constantValue,<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)"><i>INSERT_VALUES</i></span>);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>}</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>}</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>ierr = <span style="color:rgb(100,40,128)"><b>VecAssemblyBegin</b></span>(NullVector);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>ierr = <span style="color:rgb(100,40,128)"><b>VecAssemblyEnd</b></span>(NullVector);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>ierr = <span style="color:rgb(100,40,128)"><b>VecNorm</b></span>(NullVector,<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)"><i>NORM_2</i></span>,&nrm);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>ierr = <span style="color:rgb(100,40,128)"><b>VecScale</b></span>(NullVector,1.0/nrm);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(63,127,95)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">       </span></span>/* set null space */</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>ierr = <span style="color:rgb(100,40,128)"><b>MatNullSpaceCreate</b></span>(MPI_COMM_WORLD,<span style="color:rgb(0,0,192)"><i>PETSC_FALSE</i></span>,numNullVectors,&NullVector,&NullSp);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>ierr = <span style="color:rgb(100,40,128)"><b>MatSetNullSpace</b></span>(MatGlobalLinear,NullSp);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(63,127,95)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">       </span></span>/* clean up */</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>ierr = <span style="color:rgb(100,40,128)"><b>MatNullSpaceDestroy</b></span>(&NullSp);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>ierr = <span style="color:rgb(100,40,128)"><b>VecDestroy</b></span>(&NullVector);CHKERRQ(ierr);</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>PetscFunctionReturn(0);</p>
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