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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks Matt. Couple of weeks back you mentioned<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">“</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black">There are many unstructured grid examples, e.g. SNES ex13, ex17, ex56. The solver can run on
the GPU, but the vector/matrix FEM assembly does not. I am working on that now.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I am able to run other examples in ksp/tutorials on gpus. I complied ex56 in snes/tutorials no differently. The only difference being I didn’t specify _dm_vec_type and _dm_vec_type (as you mentioned
they are not assembled on gpus anyways plus I am working on an unstructured grid thought _dm is not right type for this problem). I was hoping to see gpu flops recorded for KSPSolve, which I didn’t.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Okay, I will wait for Mark to comment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Karthik.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Matthew Knepley <knepley@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 13 December 2021 at 13:17<br>
<b>To: </b>"Chockalingam, Karthikeyan (STFC,DL,HC)" <karthikeyan.chockalingam@stfc.ac.uk><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Mark Adams <mfadams@lbl.gov>, "petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" <petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [petsc-users] Unstructured mesh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 7:15 AM Karthikeyan Chockalingam - STFC UKRI <<a href="mailto:karthikeyan.chockalingam@stfc.ac.uk">karthikeyan.chockalingam@stfc.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="gmail-m4613828314074599431p1"><span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Thank you. I was able to confirm both the below options produced the same mesh</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="gmail-m4613828314074599431p1"><span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></span><span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431s1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">./ex56 -cells 2,2,1 -max_conv_its 2</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m4613828314074599431p1"><span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431s1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">./ex56 -cells 4,4,2 -max_conv_its 1</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="gmail-m4613828314074599431p1"><span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431s1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">But I didn’t get how is
</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-cells i,j,k <1,1,1><span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431s1"> is related to the number of MPI processes.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is not. The number of processes is specified independently using 'mpiexec -n <p>' or when using the test system NP=<p>. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431s1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo">(i)</span></span><span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431s1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo">Say I start with -cells 1,1,1 -max_conv its<span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431s1"> 7; that would eventually leave all refinement on level 7 running on 1 MPI process?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo">Say I start with -cells 2,2,1 -max_conv its<span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431s1"> n</span>; is it recommended to run on 4 MPI processes?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No, those options do not influence the number of processes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am running ex56 on gpu; I am looking at KSPSolve (or any other event) but no gpu flops are recorded in the -log_view?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I do not think you are running on the GPU then. Mark can comment, but we usually specify GPU execution using the Vec and Mat types<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">through -dm_vec_type and -dm_mat_type.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Matt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">For your reference I used the below flags:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m4613828314074599431p1"><span class="gmail-m4613828314074599431s1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">./ex56 -cells 1,1,1 -max_conv_its 3 -lx 1. -alpha .01 -petscspace_degree 1 -ksp_type cg -ksp_monitor -ksp_rtol 1.e-8 -pc_type asm -snes_monitor
-use_mat_nearnullspace true -snes_rtol 1.e-10 -ex56_dm_view -log_view</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Karthik.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Mark Adams <<a href="mailto:mfadams@lbl.gov" target="_blank">mfadams@lbl.gov</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, 12 December 2021 at 23:00<br>
<b>To: </b>"Chockalingam, Karthikeyan (STFC,DL,HC)" <<a href="mailto:karthikeyan.chockalingam@stfc.ac.uk" target="_blank">karthikeyan.chockalingam@stfc.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Matthew Knepley <<a href="mailto:knepley@gmail.com" target="_blank">knepley@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a>" <<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [petsc-users] Unstructured mesh</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank for your response that was helpful. I have a couple of questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>How can I control the level of refinement? I tried to pass the flag “-ex56_dm_refine 0” but that didn’t stop the refinement from 8 giving 32 cubes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I answered this question recently but ex56 clobbers ex56_dm_refine in the convergence loop. I have an MR that prints a warning if you provide a ex56_dm_refine. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* snes/ex56 runs a convergence study and confusingly sets the options manually, thus erasing your -ex56_dm_refine.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* You can adjust where it starts from with -cells i,j,k <1,1,1><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You do want to set this if you have multiple MPI processes so that the size of this mesh is the number of processes. That way it starts with one cell per process and refines from
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<p style="margin-left:54.0pt">(ii)<span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The initial mesh or mesh_0. The convergence test uniformly refines this mesh. So if you want to refine this twice you could use -cells 8,8,4<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Unfortunately, that is not printed but you can calculate from the initial cell grid, the order of the element and the refinement in each iteration of the convergence tests.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:54.0pt">So that I can perform a scaling study by changing the input of the flag -cells.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You can and the convergence test gives you data for a strong speedup study in one run. Each solve is put in its own "stage" of the output and you want to look at KSPSolve lines
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