<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Good evening Matthew, </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your answer, and sorry for the delay in mine ! I am trying to figure things out but when one gets in the distribution of a DMPlex, it becomes quite complex!</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 11 janv. 2021 à 16:24, Matthew Knepley <<a href="mailto:knepley@gmail.com">knepley@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 6:41 AM Thibault Bridel-Bertomeu <<a href="mailto:thibault.bridelbertomeu@gmail.com" target="_blank">thibault.bridelbertomeu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear all, <div><br></div><div>I haven't been on this mailing list since december, so first of all, happy new year to everyone !</div><div><br></div><div>I am facing another challenge with the DMPlex structure : although I am doing cell-centered finite volume (using PetscFV), I also need to do some manipulations and store information that are vertex-based. </div><div>The problem I have is when I run the code in parallel : when I visualize the nodal data using a vtk viewer, it shows NaN at all the vertices in close proximity to the MPI partition line.</div><div>Here is how I proceed to work on the vertex-based data :</div><div><br></div><div>First comes the creation of the DM that I'll be using for the cell-centered FVM</div><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMPlexCreateFromFile(comm, name, PETSC_TRUE, dm, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMSetBasicAdjacency(dm, PETSC_TRUE, PETSC_TRUE, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMPlexDistribute(dm, 1, PETSC_NULL_SF, dmDist, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">...</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">dm = dmDist</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">...</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMConstructGhostCells(dm, ..., ..., dmGhost, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">...</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">dm = dmGhost</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">...</font></div><div><br></div><div>I set both boolean to PETSC_TRUE in the SetBasicAdjacency so even in MPI the neighbouring relationships are conserved for all strata. Is that true ? Like, does doing this actually enable to get all the transitive closure of a given vertex, even if part of it is in another MPI block ? </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>What you say should be true, but it is not. When I designed everything, I was very much stuck in the traditional mesh way of looking at things, and made some limiting decisions. You can still get what you want (almost), but you need to distribute the mesh with an overlap of 1. If you do, then you can get the transitive support of vertices.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I actually already distribute the mesh with an overlap of 1, but the result is the same. Do I need to re-distribute the clone "dmNodal" somehow ? Is the cloning process maybe not preserving the MPI support of the different strata ?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>The problem is basically that many places in the code assume that the overlap always contains the closure of any point in it. It is difficult to be able to switch this assumption to the star (transitive support)so I have not done that yet. </div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Then I need a vertex-based DM, so I figure it's pretty much what's done in CreateMassMatrix in TS ex11.c.</div><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMClone(dm, dmNodal, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMGetCoordinateSection(dm, coordSection, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call DMGetCoordinatesLocal(dm, coordinates, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call DMSetCoordinateSection(dmNodal, PETSC_DETERMINE, coordSection, ierr);<br>call PetscSectionCreate(PETSC_COMM_WORLD, sectionNodal, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call DMPlexGetDepthStratum(dm, 0, vstart, vend, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call PetscSectionSetChart(sectionNodal, vstart, vend, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>do inode = vstart, vend-1<br> ! 3 dof per node, ndim = 3<br>call PetscSectionSetDof(sectionNodal, inode, ndim, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>end do<br>call PetscSectionSetUp(sectionNodal, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call DMSetLocalSection(dmNodal, sectionNodal, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call PetscSectionDestroy(sectionNodal, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)</font><br></div><div><br></div><div>From what I understood, this new dmNodal basically has all the characteristics of the ori dm, except it's primary layer is vertex-based with 3 DOF per vertex.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Take out the coordinate stuff above. This is now handled internally in a better way. Other than that, it looks good.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You mean the SetCoordinateSection is already handled by the cloning process ? </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Then I get a local vector and work on it :</div><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMGetLocalVector(dmNodal, nodalvec, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call VecGetArrayF90(nodalvec, nodalvecarray, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMPlexGetDepthStratum(dm, 0, vstart, vend, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMPlexGetDepthStratum(dm, 2, fstart, fend, ierr)<br></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">! For each node ...</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">do inode = vstart, vend-1</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">A = 0 ! matrix, ndim x ndim</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">b = 0 ! vector, ndim</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMPlexGetTransitiveClosure(dmNodal, inode, PETSC_FALSE, vertexclosure, ierr);<br></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">! For each face attached to that node</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">do iface = 1, size(vertexclosure)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">if ((vertexclosure(iface) < fstart) .or. (vertexclosure(iface) >= fend)) cycle<br></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">A = A + ...</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">b = b + ...</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">end do</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">nodalvecarray(1+(inode-vstart)*ndim:3+(inode-vstart)*ndim) = matmul(A, b)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">...</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">end do</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There are some subtleties here I think. You are looping over all vertices, but you only own some of them.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Here I am quite surprised by your remark : from the random print I did, the DMPlexGetDepthStratum returns different vstart and vend for different MPI processes, hence I assumed it was a local numbering. And then I assumed that, with the DMPlexDistribute, it ensured that the "vertexclosure" contained (among others) all the faces connected to each "inode", even if the closure is spread among multiple MPI processes. So you mean that all these assumptions are actually wrong to some degree ?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>What do you do when putting these values in the global vector? I think there are at least three choices:</div><div><br></div><div>1) Everyone has everything, so you compute all the vertex stuff redundantly, and then use INSERT_VALUES for the scatter</div><div><br></div><div>2) Only vertices are redundant, so the transitive supports of vertices are partial but non-overlapping, and you use ADD_VALUES for the scatter</div><div><br></div><div>3) Only cells are redundant, so you do the complete vertex computation only for local vertices</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I distributed with overlap = 1, so I expect I have a halo of redundant cells in each MPI block (option no. 3). With the (..., PETSC_TRUE, PETSC_TRUE, ...) setting of the distribute however, I also expected to have a halo of vertices and a halo of edges and a halo of faces. Therefore, completing the vertex computation only for local vertices should have been fine since anyways even local vertices know their complete closure in terms of faces, but I am missing something because it does not turn out right ...</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Then I want to visualize it :</div><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call VecRestoreArrayF90(nodalvec, nodalvecarray, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMCreateGlobalVector(dmNodal, globalnodalvec, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call DMLocalToGlobal(dmNodal, nodalvec, INSERT_VALUES, globalnodalvec, ierr)</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">call PetscViewerCreate(PETSC_COMM_WORLD, vtkViewer, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call PetscViewerSetType(vtkViewer, PETSCVIEWERVTK, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call PetscViewerFileSetName(vtkViewer, "toto.vtk", ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call VecView(globalnodalvec, vtkViewer, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)<br>call PetscViewerDestroy(vtkViewer, ierr); CHKERRA(ierr)</font><br></div><div><br></div><div>In the toto.vtk file, I get vertex-based values as expected, and the whole shebang works in sequential. Now when I run it in parallel, I get vertex-based values inside the MPI blocks, but in the neighbourhood of the join between the MPI blocks, all the vertex-based values are NaN (see attachment).</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If you have redundant cells, meaning you distributed with overlap = 1, did you remember to full up the values for those ghost cells using</div><div>DMGlobalToLocal() or something like that? If not, they will start as NaNs.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Indeed, in the vertex computation, at some point I use the values in the cells. But I got the solution vector from TSGetSolution, then I do a GlobalToLocal, then I even add a InsertBoundaryValues to fill the ghost cells correctly.</div><div>Even by doing this, when I print the nodalvecarray on each process, they somehow contain some NaNs. This means, I think, that at some point, a given vertex tries to get the information of a face that is supposed to be in its closure but is actually not .. (?)</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your help and feedback !</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, </div><div><br></div><div>Thibault</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div> Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div> Matt</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>All in all, I think I do not understand fully the consequences of the DMPlexDistribute with useCone=true & useClosure=true ... but I cannot figure out where the NaN are coming from : is it because the vertices do not actually know all their closure through the MPI join, or is it some Global / Local error I made ?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you very much in advance for your support !!</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Thibault</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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