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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Olivier Jamond <olivier.jamond@cea.fr><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2020 2:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhang, Hong <hzhang@mcs.anl.gov>; Matthew Knepley <knepley@gmail.com>; Mark Adams <mfadams@lbl.gov><br>
<b>Cc:</b> PETSc <petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [petsc-users] Compute C*Ct using MatCreateTranspose for Ct</font>
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@Mark: Sorry, I totally misunderstood your answer, so my answer to your answer about petsc versions is non-sense...</p>
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@Hong: <font face="monospace">MatTransposeMatMult gives (Ct*C), no? And I feel that MatCreateTranspose actually works for mpiaij.<br>
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Yes, <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: monospace; font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">
MatTransposeMatMult gives (Ct*C).</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: monospace; font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">MatCreateTranspose(C,&N) creates a new
matrix N which shares the data structure of C. When user calls y = N*x, PETSc actually does MatMultTranspose with C. I do not think you can uses N to do N*C, which is not supported.</span><br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 24/09/2020 16:16, Zhang, Hong via petsc-users wrote:<br>
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<div style=""><span style="">Olivier and Matt,</span><font face="monospace" color="#201f1e"><span style="font-size:15px"><br>
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<font face="monospace">MatPtAP with A=I gives Pt*P, not P*Pt. We have sequential MatRARt and MatMatTransposeMult(), but no support for mpiaij matrices. The problem is that we do not have a way to implement C*Ct without explicitly transpose C in parallel.</font></p>
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<font face="monospace">We support MatTransposeMatMult (A*Bt) for mpiaij. Can you use this instead? </font></p>
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<petsc-users-bounces@mcs.anl.gov></a> on behalf of Zhang, Hong via petsc-users <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov">
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Knepley <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:knepley@gmail.com">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [petsc-users] Compute C*Ct using MatCreateTranspose for Ct</font>
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Indeed, we do not have <span style="color:rgb(50,49,48); font-size:17px; font-weight:600; background-color:rgb(250,249,248); display:inline!important">MatCreateTranspose for mpaij matrix. </span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(50,49,48); font-size:17px; font-weight:600; background-color:rgb(250,249,248); display:inline!important">I can adding such support. How soon do you need it?</span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 24, 2020 6:12 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [petsc-users] Compute C*Ct using MatCreateTranspose for Ct</font>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 6:48 AM Mark Adams <<a href="mailto:mfadams@lbl.gov">mfadams@lbl.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>It does not look like we have A*B^T for mpiaij as the error message says. I am not finding it in the code.</div>
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<div>Note, <span style="font-family:monospace">MatMatMult with a transpose shell matrix, I suspect that it does an explicit transpose internally, or it could notice that you have C^T*C and we might have that implemented in-place (I doubt it, but it would be
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<div>We definitely have</div>
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<div>For now, you can put the identity in for A. It would be nice it we assumed that when A = NULL.</div>
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<div>Patrick, the implementation strategy is broken for the MatProduct mechanism that was just introduced, so</div>
<div>we cannot see which things are implemented in the documentation. How would I go about fixing it?</div>
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