<div dir="ltr">Hi Myriam,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your valuable feedback. The plots are really cool! Finally all the algorithms are scalable.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Fande</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:58 AM Myriam Peyrounette <<a href="mailto:myriam.peyrounette@idris.fr">myriam.peyrounette@idris.fr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Oh sorry, I missed that. That's great!</p>
    <p>Thanks,</p>
    <p>Myriam<br>
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    <div class="gmail-m_-2298207637864984588moz-cite-prefix">Le 05/29/19 à 16:55, Zhang, Hong a
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        <div dir="ltr">Myriam:<br>
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        <div>This branch is merged to master.</div>
        <div>Thanks for your work and patience. It helps us a lot. The
          graphs are very nice :-)</div>
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        <div>We plan to re-organise the APIs of mat-mat opts, make them
          easier for users.</div>
        <div>Hong</div>
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              <p>Hi, <br>
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              <p>Do you have any idea when Barry's fix (<a class="gmail-m_-2298207637864984588gmail-m_-8191395118479287483moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bitbucket.org/petsc/petsc/pull-requests/1606/change-handling-of-matptap_mpiaij_mpimaij/diff" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/petsc/petsc/pull-requests/1606/change-handling-of-matptap_mpiaij_mpimaij/diff</a>)
                will be released? I can see it has been merged to the
                "next" branch. Does it mean it will be soon available on
                master?
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              <p>+for your information, I plotted a summary of the
                scalings of interest (memory and time):<br>
                - using petsc-3.10.2 (ref "bad" scaling)<br>
                - using petsc-3.6.4 (ref "good" scaling)<br>
                - using commit d330a26 + Barry's fix and different
                algorithms (none, scalable, allatonce, allatonce_merged)</p>
              <p>Best regards,</p>
              <p>Myriam<br>
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                                  <div>Hi Myriam,</div>
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                                  <div>Thanks for your report back.</div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                      Mon, May 13, 2019 at 2:01 AM
                                      Myriam Peyrounette <<a href="mailto:myriam.peyrounette@idris.fr" target="_blank">myriam.peyrounette@idris.fr</a>>
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                                      Hi all,<br>
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                                      I tried with 3.11.1 version and
                                      Barry's fix. The good scaling is
                                      back!<br>
                                      See the green curve in the plot
                                      attached. It is even better than
                                      PETSc<br>
                                      3.6! And it runs faster (10-15s
                                      instead of 200-300s with 3.6).<br>
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                                    <div>We are glad your issue was
                                      resolved here. </div>
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                                      So you were right. It seems that
                                      not all the PtAPs used the
                                      scalable<br>
                                      version.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      I was a bit confused about the
                                      options to set... I used the
                                      options:<br>
                                      -matptap_via scalable and
                                      -mat_freeintermediatedatastructures
                                      1. Do you<br>
                                      think it would be even better with
                                      allatonce?<br>
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                                    <div>"scalable" and "allatonce"
                                      correspond to different algorithms
                                      respectively. ``allatonce" should
                                      be using less memory than
                                      "scalable". The "allatonce"
                                      algorithm  would be a good
                                      alternative if your application is
                                      memory sensitive and the problem
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                                    <div>We are definitely curious about
                                      the memory usage of ``allatonce"
                                      in your test cases but don't feel
                                      obligated to do these tests since
                                      your concern were resolved now. In
                                      case you are also interested in
                                      how our new algorithms perform, I
                                      post petsc options here that are
                                      used to </div>
                                    <div>choose these algorithms:</div>
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                                    <div>algorithm 1: ``allatonce" </div>
                                    <div><br>
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                                    <div>-matptap_via allatonce<br>
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                                    <div>-mat_freeintermediatedatastructures
                                      1<br>
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                                    <div>algorithm 2:
                                      ``allatonce_merged" <br>
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                                      <div>-matptap_via allatonce_merged<br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>-mat_freeintermediatedatastructures
                                        1</div>
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                                    <div>Again, thanks for your report
                                      that help us improve PETSc.</div>
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                                    <div>Fande,</div>
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                                      <br>
                                      It is unfortunate that this fix
                                      can't be merged with the master
                                      branch.<br>
                                      But the patch works well and I can
                                      consider the issue as solved now.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Thanks a lot for your time!<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Myriam<br>
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                                      Le 05/04/19 à 06:54, Smith, Barry
                                      F. a écrit :<br>
                                      >    Hmm, I had already fixed
                                      this, I think, <br>
                                      ><br>
                                      >    <a href="https://bitbucket.org/petsc/petsc/pull-requests/1606/change-handling-of-matptap_mpiaij_mpimaij/diff" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://bitbucket.org/petsc/petsc/pull-requests/1606/change-handling-of-matptap_mpiaij_mpimaij/diff</a><br>
                                      ><br>
                                      >    but unfortunately our
                                      backlog of pull requests kept it
                                      out of master. We are (well Satish
                                      and Jed) working on a new CI
                                      infrastructure that will hopefully
                                      be more stable than the current CI
                                      that we are using.<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      >    Fande,<br>
                                      >       Sorry you had to spend
                                      time on this. <br>
                                      ><br>
                                      ><br>
                                      >    Barry<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      ><br>
                                      ><br>
                                      >> On May 3, 2019, at 11:20
                                      PM, Fande Kong via petsc-users
                                      <<a href="mailto:petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      >><br>
                                      >> Hi Myriam,<br>
                                      >><br>
                                      >> I run the example you
                                      attached earlier with "-mx 48 -my
                                      48 -mz 48 -levels 3 -ksp_view 
                                      -matptap_via allatonce -log_view
                                      ". 
                                      <br>
                                      >><br>
                                      >> There are six PtAPs. Two
                                      of them are sill using the
                                      nonscalable version of the
                                      algorithm (this might explain why
                                      the memory still exponentially
                                      increases) even though we have
                                      asked PETSc to use the
                                      ``allatonce" algorithm. This is
                                      happening because MATMAIJ does not
                                      honor the petsc option, instead,
                                      it uses the default setting of
                                      MPIAIJ.  I have a fix at
                                      <a href="https://bitbucket.org/petsc/petsc/pull-requests/1623/choose-algorithms-in/diff" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://bitbucket.org/petsc/petsc/pull-requests/1623/choose-algorithms-in/diff</a>.
                                      The PR should fix the issue.<br>
                                      >><br>
                                      >> Thanks again for your
                                      report,<br>
                                      >><br>
                                      >> Fande,<br>
                                      >><br>
                                      >>  <br>
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                                      -- <br>
                                      Myriam Peyrounette<br>
                                      CNRS/IDRIS - HLST<br>
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