<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Petsc developer(s), <br></div><div><br></div><div>I am assessing the strong scalability of our incompressible Navier-Stokes solver on distributed Octree grids developed at the University of California, Santa Barbara.</div><div><br></div><div>I intend to show satisfactory strong scaling behavior, even on very large numbers of cores for computational problems that involve a mesh that is big enough. My scaling test case involves 10 time steps of our solver, applied to the three-dimensional flow past a sphere on an extremely fine (but non-uniform) mesh made of about 270,000,000 computational cells. We use the p4est library for grid management and Petsc solvers for all linear algebra problems. I am working on Stampede 2 supercomputer's KNL nodes, using 64 cores per node.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The most elementary usage of the solver can be summarized as follows:</div><div>- "viscosity step": velocity components are decoupled from each other and solved for successively, leading to three successive Poisson problems with an added positive diagonal term;</div><div>- "projection step": a projection step is solved to enforce the velocity field to be divergence-free.</div><div>The solution of the "projection step" updates the appropriate boundary conditions for the "viscosity step" and the process may thus be repeated until a desired convergence threshold is reached for the current time step. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Given the discretization that we use for the "viscosity step", the three corresponding linear systems are slightly nonsymmetric but have a dominant diagonal. We use BiCGStab with PCSOR as a preconditioner invariably for those problems (only a few iterations are required for those problems in this case). On the contrary, the linear system to be solved for the "projection step" is symmetric and positive definite, so we use a conjugate gradient solver. PCSOR or PCHYPRE can be chosen by the user as a preconditioner for that task. If PCHYPRE is chosen, "-pc_hypre_boomeramg_strong_threshold" is set to "0.5", "-pc_hypre_boomeramg_coarsen_type" is set to "Falgout" and "-pc_hypre_boomeramg_truncfactor" is set to "0.1". Tests on my local machine (on a much smaller problem) revealed that PCHYPRE outperforms PCSOR (both in terms of execution time and number of iterations) and I expected the conclusion to hold for (much) bigger problems on Stampede 2, as well. <br></div><div><br></div><div>However that was wrong: PCSOR actually outperforms PCHYPRE quite significantly when using large numbers of cores for my scaling test problem. Worse than that, strong scaling of the projection step is actually very poor when using PCHYPRE as preconditioner: the time spent on that part of the problem grows with the number of cores. See the results here below:</div><div><br></div><div>NB: the scaling test that is considered here below consists of 2 time steps of the solver starting from an initial state read from disk, of around 270,000,000 computational cells. Each time step involves two sub-iterations,<i> i.e.</i>, every time step solves a first viscosity step (3 calls to KSPSolve of type bcgs with zero initial guesses), then a first projection step (1 call to KSPSolve of type cg with zero initial guess) then a second viscosity step (3 more calls to KSPSolve of type bcgs with nonzero initial guess), and a second projection step (1 call to KSPSolve of type cg with nonzero initial guess). This makes a total of 16 calls to KSPSolves, 12 of them are for the viscosity step (not under investigation here) and 4 others are for the projection steps <br></div><div><br></div><div><b><u>Mean execution time for the projection step (only):</u></b></div>Number of cores: 4096 --> mean execution time for projection step using PCSOR: 125.7 s |||||| mean exectution time for projection step using PCHYPRE: 192.7 s</div><div dir="ltr">Number of cores: 8192 --> mean execution time for projection step
using PCSOR: 81.58 s |||||| mean exectution time for projection step
using PCHYPRE: 281.8 s</div><div dir="ltr">Number of cores: 16384 --> mean execution time for projection step
using PCSOR: 48.2 s |||||| mean exectution time for projection step
using PCHYPRE: 311.5 s </div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>The tests were all run with "-ksp_monitor", "-ksp_view" and "-log_view" for gathering more information about the processes (see files attached). While it is clear that the number of iterations is dramatically reduced when using PCHYPRE, it looks like a <b><u>very</u></b> long time is spent in PCSetUp and PCApply when using PCHYPRE for the projection step. When using PCHYPRE, the time spent in PCSetUp, PCApply and KSPSolve grows with the number of cores that are used. In particular, the time spent in PCSetUp alone when using PCHYPRE is larger than the total KSPSolve time when using PCSOR (although thousands of iterations are required in that case)...<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am very surprised by these results and I don't quite understand them, I used PCHYPRE with similar options and option values in other elliptic solver contexts previously with very satisfactory results, even on large problems. I can't figure out why we loose strong scaling in this case?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Would you have some advice about a better preconditioner to use and or a better set of options and/or option values to set in order to recover strong scaling when using PCHYPRE?<br></div><br><div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Raphael M. Egan <br></div><div><br>Department of Mechanical Engineering<br></div><div>Engineering II Building, Office 2317<br></div><div>University of California, Santa Barbara<br></div><div>Santa Barbara, CA 93106<br></div><div>Email: <a href="mailto:raphaelegan@ucsb.edu" target="_blank">raphaelegan@ucsb.edu</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>