<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Stefano Zampini <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stefano.zampini@gmail.com" target="_blank">stefano.zampini@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span class=""><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Il Ven 13 Apr 2018, 21:27 Sanjay Govindjee <<a href="mailto:s_g@berkeley.edu" target="_blank">s_g@berkeley.edu</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Wouldn't it make the most sense to do it in a variationally
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    rhs_a = int{ N_a delta(x - x_o) }<br>
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    where x_o is the location of the point source?<br></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">This is what I meant. However, the current callbacks for residual evaluation in PetscDS do not allow to do it.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>And I don't think they should since that is not something that can be done by quadrature, so the interface is still unclear.</div><div>Anyone can code something up ;)</div><div><br></div><div>  Matt</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
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                <div>Is there an example of application of a point
                  source in one of the tutorial  PETScFE style examples?
                  Ideally this would be some point on the interior, and
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            <div>No, good question. You would have to decide what that
              meant in FEM terms. All the internal integrals are done</div>
            <div>with quadrature. So putting the source at a quadrature
              point would work, although its a little difficult to know
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            <div>they will be. You could smooth it out a little, and
              check coordinates in the forcing function. Last, you could
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            <div>for a "close enough" quadrature point and put it there.
              I think making a slightly extended source is usually best.</div>
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