[petsc-users] strange convergence

Barry Smith bsmith at mcs.anl.gov
Mon Apr 24 12:32:08 CDT 2017


> On Apr 24, 2017, at 3:16 AM, Hoang Giang Bui <hgbk2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Barry, trying with -fieldsplit_u_type lu gives better convergence. I still used 4 procs though, probably with 1 proc it should also be the same.
> 
> The u block used a Nitsche-type operator to connect two non-matching domains. I don't think it will leave some rigid body motion leads to not sufficient constraints. Maybe you have other idea?
> 
>     Residual norms for fieldsplit_u_ solve.
>     0 KSP Residual norm 3.129067184300e+05 
>     1 KSP Residual norm 5.906261468196e-01 
>     Residual norms for fieldsplit_wp_ solve.
>     0 KSP Residual norm 0.000000000000e+00 

    ^^^^ something is wrong here. The sub solve should not be starting with a 0 residual (this means the right hand side for this sub solve is zero which it should not be). 

> FieldSplit with MULTIPLICATIVE composition: total splits = 2


   How are you providing the outer operator? As an explicit matrix or with some shell matrix? 



>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.129067184300e+05 true resid norm 9.015150492169e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>     Residual norms for fieldsplit_u_ solve.
>     0 KSP Residual norm 9.999955993437e-01 
>     1 KSP Residual norm 4.019774691831e-06 
>     Residual norms for fieldsplit_wp_ solve.
>     0 KSP Residual norm 0.000000000000e+00 
>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.003913641475e-01 true resid norm 4.692996324114e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 5.205677185522e-06
>     Residual norms for fieldsplit_u_ solve.
>     0 KSP Residual norm 1.000012180204e+00 
>     1 KSP Residual norm 1.017367950422e-05 
>     Residual norms for fieldsplit_wp_ solve.
>     0 KSP Residual norm 0.000000000000e+00 
>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.330910333756e-07 true resid norm 3.474855463983e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.854461960453e-06
>     Residual norms for fieldsplit_u_ solve.
>     0 KSP Residual norm 1.000004200085e+00 
>     1 KSP Residual norm 6.231613102458e-06 
>     Residual norms for fieldsplit_wp_ solve.
>     0 KSP Residual norm 0.000000000000e+00 
>   3 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.671259838389e-11 true resid norm 3.545103468011e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.932384125024e-06
> Linear solve converged due to CONVERGED_ATOL iterations 3
> KSP Object: 4 MPI processes
>   type: gmres
>     GMRES: restart=1000, using Modified Gram-Schmidt Orthogonalization
>     GMRES: happy breakdown tolerance 1e-30
>   maximum iterations=1000, initial guess is zero
>   tolerances:  relative=1e-20, absolute=1e-09, divergence=10000
>   left preconditioning
>   using PRECONDITIONED norm type for convergence test
> PC Object: 4 MPI processes
>   type: fieldsplit
>     FieldSplit with MULTIPLICATIVE composition: total splits = 2
>     Solver info for each split is in the following KSP objects:
>     Split number 0 Defined by IS
>     KSP Object:    (fieldsplit_u_)     4 MPI processes
>       type: richardson
>         Richardson: damping factor=1
>       maximum iterations=1, initial guess is zero
>       tolerances:  relative=1e-05, absolute=1e-50, divergence=10000
>       left preconditioning
>       using PRECONDITIONED norm type for convergence test
>     PC Object:    (fieldsplit_u_)     4 MPI processes
>       type: lu
>         LU: out-of-place factorization
>         tolerance for zero pivot 2.22045e-14
>         matrix ordering: natural
>         factor fill ratio given 0, needed 0
>           Factored matrix follows:
>             Mat Object:             4 MPI processes
>               type: mpiaij
>               rows=938910, cols=938910
>               package used to perform factorization: pastix
>               total: nonzeros=0, allocated nonzeros=0
>       Error :                        3.36878e-14 
>           total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
>                 PaStiX run parameters:
>                   Matrix type :                      Unsymmetric 
>                   Level of printing (0,1,2):         0 
>                   Number of refinements iterations : 3 
>   Error :                        3.36878e-14 
>       linear system matrix = precond matrix:
>       Mat Object:      (fieldsplit_u_)       4 MPI processes
>         type: mpiaij
>         rows=938910, cols=938910, bs=3
>   Error :                        3.36878e-14 
>   Error :                        3.36878e-14 
>         total: nonzeros=8.60906e+07, allocated nonzeros=8.60906e+07
>         total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
>           using I-node (on process 0) routines: found 78749 nodes, limit used is 5
>     Split number 1 Defined by IS
>     KSP Object:    (fieldsplit_wp_)     4 MPI processes
>       type: richardson
>         Richardson: damping factor=1
>       maximum iterations=1, initial guess is zero
>       tolerances:  relative=1e-05, absolute=1e-50, divergence=10000
>       left preconditioning
>       using PRECONDITIONED norm type for convergence test
>     PC Object:    (fieldsplit_wp_)     4 MPI processes
>       type: lu
>         LU: out-of-place factorization
>         tolerance for zero pivot 2.22045e-14
>         matrix ordering: natural
>         factor fill ratio given 0, needed 0
>           Factored matrix follows:
>             Mat Object:             4 MPI processes
>               type: mpiaij
>               rows=34141, cols=34141
>               package used to perform factorization: pastix
>                 Error :                        -nan 
>   Error :                        -nan 
>   Error :                        -nan 
> total: nonzeros=0, allocated nonzeros=0
>               total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
>                 PaStiX run parameters:
>                   Matrix type :                      Symmetric 
>                   Level of printing (0,1,2):         0 
>                   Number of refinements iterations : 0 
>   Error :                        -nan 
>       linear system matrix = precond matrix:
>       Mat Object:      (fieldsplit_wp_)       4 MPI processes
>         type: mpiaij
>         rows=34141, cols=34141
>         total: nonzeros=485655, allocated nonzeros=485655
>         total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
>           not using I-node (on process 0) routines
>   linear system matrix = precond matrix:
>   Mat Object:   4 MPI processes
>     type: mpiaij
>     rows=973051, cols=973051
>     total: nonzeros=9.90037e+07, allocated nonzeros=9.90037e+07
>     total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
>       using I-node (on process 0) routines: found 78749 nodes, limit used is 5
> 
> 
> 
> Giang
> 
> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> 
> > On Apr 23, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Hoang Giang Bui <hgbk2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Matt/Barry
> >
> > With your options, it results in
> >
> >   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.106709687386e+31 true resid norm 9.015150491938e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
> >     Residual norms for fieldsplit_u_ solve.
> >     0 KSP Residual norm 2.407308987203e+36
> >     1 KSP Residual norm 5.797185652683e+72
> 
> It looks like Matt is right, hypre is seemly producing useless garbage.
> 
> First how do things run on one process. If you have similar problems then debug on one process (debugging any kind of problem is always far easy on one process).
> 
> First run with -fieldsplit_u_type lu (instead of using hypre) to see if that works or also produces something bad.
> 
> What is the operator and the boundary conditions for u? It could be singular.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >     Residual norms for fieldsplit_wp_ solve.
> >     0 KSP Residual norm 0.000000000000e+00
> > ...
> > 999 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.920157329174e+12 true resid norm 9.015683504616e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000059124102e+00
> >     Residual norms for fieldsplit_u_ solve.
> >     0 KSP Residual norm 1.533726746719e+36
> >     1 KSP Residual norm 3.692757392261e+72
> >     Residual norms for fieldsplit_wp_ solve.
> >     0 KSP Residual norm 0.000000000000e+00
> >
> > Do you suggest that the pastix solver for the "wp" block encounters small pivot? In addition, seem like the "u" block is also singular.
> >
> > Giang
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> >
> >    Huge preconditioned norms but normal unpreconditioned norms almost always come from a very small pivot in an LU or ILU factorization.
> >
> >    The first thing to do is monitor the two sub solves. Run with the additional options -fieldsplit_u_ksp_type richardson -fieldsplit_u_ksp_monitor -fieldsplit_u_ksp_max_it 1 -fieldsplit_wp_ksp_type richardson -fieldsplit_wp_ksp_monitor -fieldsplit_wp_ksp_max_it 1
> >
> > > On Apr 23, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Hoang Giang Bui <hgbk2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I encountered a strange convergence behavior that I have trouble to understand
> > >
> > > KSPSetFromOptions completed
> > >   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.106709687386e+31 true resid norm 9.015150491938e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
> > >   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.933141742664e+29 true resid norm 9.015152282123e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000198575e+00
> > >   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 9.686409637174e+16 true resid norm 9.015354521944e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000022631902e+00
> > >   3 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.219243615809e+15 true resid norm 9.017157702420e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000222648583e+00
> > > .....
> > > 999 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.043754298076e+12 true resid norm 9.015425041089e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000030454195e+00
> > > 1000 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.043000287819e+12 true resid norm 9.015424313455e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000030373483e+00
> > > Linear solve did not converge due to DIVERGED_ITS iterations 1000
> > > KSP Object: 4 MPI processes
> > >   type: gmres
> > >     GMRES: restart=1000, using Modified Gram-Schmidt Orthogonalization
> > >     GMRES: happy breakdown tolerance 1e-30
> > >   maximum iterations=1000, initial guess is zero
> > >   tolerances:  relative=1e-20, absolute=1e-09, divergence=10000
> > >   left preconditioning
> > >   using PRECONDITIONED norm type for convergence test
> > > PC Object: 4 MPI processes
> > >   type: fieldsplit
> > >     FieldSplit with MULTIPLICATIVE composition: total splits = 2
> > >     Solver info for each split is in the following KSP objects:
> > >     Split number 0 Defined by IS
> > >     KSP Object:    (fieldsplit_u_)     4 MPI processes
> > >       type: preonly
> > >       maximum iterations=10000, initial guess is zero
> > >       tolerances:  relative=1e-05, absolute=1e-50, divergence=10000
> > >       left preconditioning
> > >       using NONE norm type for convergence test
> > >     PC Object:    (fieldsplit_u_)     4 MPI processes
> > >       type: hypre
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG preconditioning
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Cycle type V
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Maximum number of levels 25
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Maximum number of iterations PER hypre call 1
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Convergence tolerance PER hypre call 0
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Threshold for strong coupling 0.6
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Interpolation truncation factor 0
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Interpolation: max elements per row 0
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Number of levels of aggressive coarsening 0
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Number of paths for aggressive coarsening 1
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Maximum row sums 0.9
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Sweeps down         1
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Sweeps up           1
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Sweeps on coarse    1
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Relax down          symmetric-SOR/Jacobi
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Relax up            symmetric-SOR/Jacobi
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Relax on coarse     Gaussian-elimination
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Relax weight  (all)      1
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Outer relax weight (all) 1
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Using CF-relaxation
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Measure type        local
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Coarsen type        PMIS
> > >         HYPRE BoomerAMG: Interpolation type  classical
> > >       linear system matrix = precond matrix:
> > >       Mat Object:      (fieldsplit_u_)       4 MPI processes
> > >         type: mpiaij
> > >         rows=938910, cols=938910, bs=3
> > >         total: nonzeros=8.60906e+07, allocated nonzeros=8.60906e+07
> > >         total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
> > >           using I-node (on process 0) routines: found 78749 nodes, limit used is 5
> > >     Split number 1 Defined by IS
> > >     KSP Object:    (fieldsplit_wp_)     4 MPI processes
> > >       type: preonly
> > >       maximum iterations=10000, initial guess is zero
> > >       tolerances:  relative=1e-05, absolute=1e-50, divergence=10000
> > >       left preconditioning
> > >       using NONE norm type for convergence test
> > >     PC Object:    (fieldsplit_wp_)     4 MPI processes
> > >       type: lu
> > >         LU: out-of-place factorization
> > >         tolerance for zero pivot 2.22045e-14
> > >         matrix ordering: natural
> > >         factor fill ratio given 0, needed 0
> > >           Factored matrix follows:
> > >             Mat Object:             4 MPI processes
> > >               type: mpiaij
> > >               rows=34141, cols=34141
> > >               package used to perform factorization: pastix
> > >             Error :                        -nan
> > >   Error :                        -nan
> > >     total: nonzeros=0, allocated nonzeros=0
> > >             Error :                        -nan
> > >     total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
> > >                 PaStiX run parameters:
> > >                   Matrix type :                      Symmetric
> > >                   Level of printing (0,1,2):         0
> > >                   Number of refinements iterations : 0
> > >   Error :                        -nan
> > >       linear system matrix = precond matrix:
> > >       Mat Object:      (fieldsplit_wp_)       4 MPI processes
> > >         type: mpiaij
> > >         rows=34141, cols=34141
> > >         total: nonzeros=485655, allocated nonzeros=485655
> > >         total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
> > >           not using I-node (on process 0) routines
> > >   linear system matrix = precond matrix:
> > >   Mat Object:   4 MPI processes
> > >     type: mpiaij
> > >     rows=973051, cols=973051
> > >     total: nonzeros=9.90037e+07, allocated nonzeros=9.90037e+07
> > >     total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
> > >       using I-node (on process 0) routines: found 78749 nodes, limit used is 5
> > >
> > > The pattern of convergence gives a hint that this system is somehow bad/singular. But I don't know why the preconditioned error goes up too high. Anyone has an idea?
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Giang Bui
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 



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