[petsc-users] Grid Partitioning with ParMetis

Mohammad Mirzadeh mirzadeh at gmail.com
Thu Jul 28 23:52:33 CDT 2011


Thank you Matt. Indeed I have looked into p4est and also Dendro. p4est uses
parallel octrees/quadtrees but for what I intend to do I only need to
distribute a single tree that is created in serial among processors.
I definitely like to have the tree data-structure in parallel but that would
be another project. I also looked into Dendro and they kind of follow the
same strategy. i.e every single processor has a local copy of the whole
tree. What they do differently, however, is they somehow manage to use DA
instead of a general unstructured numbering which is quite interesting but I
still don't know how they do it. Unfortunately, they do not handle (as far
as I understood from their manual) non-graded trees which are the ones I
work with.

So, all I need to do is to somehow distribute my grid among processors and
since each one has a local copy of data-structure I could get around the
problem. Just anotehr question. If the partitioning is not unique, do you at
least get a better numbering than the tree you start with?

Mohammad

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Mohammad Mirzadeh <mirzadeh at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am trying to write a code to do parallel computation on quadtree
>> adaptive grids and to do so , I need to distribute the grid in parallel. I
>> have selected a general unstructured framework for telling PETSc about my
>> node numbering. An example of such grid is schematically shown below.
>>
>
> 0) If you are doing this, I think you should at least look at the p4est
> package before proceeding.
>
>
>>
>> 1                16              7                             3
>> +---------------+---------------+------------------------------+
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |14             | 15           | 17                           |
>> +---------------+---------------+                              |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> | 4             | 12            | 6                            |8
>> +---------------+---------------+------------------------------+
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> | 9              | 11           |  13                         |
>> +---------------+---------------+                              |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> | 0              | 10           |5                             | 2
>> +---------------+---------------+------------------------------+
>>
>>
>> To distribute this in parallel I am using the ParMetis interface via MatPartitioning object and I follow(more or less) the example in $PETSC_DIR/src/dm/ao/examples/tutorials/ex2.c; To make the initial distribution, I choose nodal based partitioning by creating the adjacency matrix, for which I create ia and ja arrays accordingly. once the grid is processed and the new orderings are generated, I follow all required steps to generate the AO needed to map between PETSc ordering and the new global numbering and this is the result:
>>
>>
>> Number of elements in ordering 18
>> PETSc->App  App->PETSc
>>   0    9                  0    1
>>   1    0                  1    3
>>   2   10                 2    4
>>   3    1                  3    7
>>   4    2                  4   12
>>   5   11                 5   14
>>   6   12                 6   15
>>   7    3                  7   16
>>   8   13                 8   17
>>   9   14                 9    0
>>  10   15               10    2
>>  11   16               11    5
>>  12    4                12    6
>>  13   17               13    8
>>  14    5                14    9
>>  15    6                15   10
>>  16    7                16   11
>>  17    8                17   13
>>
>> Now I have two questions/concerns:
>>
>> 1) Do processors always have the nodes in contiguous chunks of PETSc
>> ordering? i.e 0-8 on rank 0 and 9-17 on rank 1 ? If so, this particular
>> ordering does not seem to be "good" for this grid since it seems to cross
>> too many edges in the graph (here 13 edges) and by just looking at the graph
>> I can(at least) think of a better distribution with only 6 edge cuts. (if
>> you are wondering how, having {0,9,4,14,1,10,11,12,15} on rank 0 and rest on
>> rank 1).
>>
>
> Yes, the PETSc ordering is always contiguous. Perhaps you are not providing
> the graph you think you are for partitioning.
>
>
>> 2) Isn't  it true that the final distribution should be independent of
>> initial grid numbering? When I try the same grid but with the following
>> (hand-generated) numbering:
>>
>>  14               15             16                             17
>> +---------------+---------------+------------------------------+
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |11             | 12           | 13                           |
>> +---------------+---------------+                              |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> | 7             | 8              | 9                            |10
>> +---------------+---------------+------------------------------+
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> | 4              | 5             |  6                           |
>> +---------------+---------------+                              |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> |                |                |                               |
>> | 0              | 1             |2                             | 3
>> +---------------+---------------+------------------------------+
>>
>> I get the following AO:
>>
>> Number of elements in ordering 18
>> PETSc->App  App->PETSc
>>   0    9                   0    9
>>   1   10                  1   10
>>   2   11                  2   11
>>   3   12                  3   12
>>   4   13                  4   13
>>   5   14                  5   14
>>   6   15                  6   15
>>   7   16                  7   16
>>   8   17                  8   17
>>   9    0                   9    0
>>  10    1                10    1
>>  11    2                11    2
>>  12    3                12    3
>>  13    4                13    4
>>  14    5                14    5
>>  15    6                15    6
>>  16    7                16    7
>>  17    8                17    8
>>
>>
>> which is simply the initial ordering with a change in the order in which
>> processors handle nodes.  Could it be that the partitioning is not unique
>> and each time the algorithm only tries to obtain the "best" possible
>> ordering depending on the initial distribution? If so, how should I know
>> what ordering to start with?
>>
>
> Yes, ParMetis does not provide a unique "best" ordering, which is at least
> NP-complete if not worse.
>
>    Matt
>
>
>> I am really confused and would appreciate if someone could provide some
>> insights.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mohammad
>>
>
>
>
> --
> What most experimenters take for granted before they begin their
> experiments is infinitely more interesting than any results to which their
> experiments lead.
> -- Norbert Wiener
>
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