<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><span class="faq-inner-item slp-font-normal slp-text-grayscale-333 slp-text-md slp-text-ui-secondary-light"><div>Note this from the FAQ:</div><div><br></div><div><a class="faq-question js-faq-question" href="https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/join/#requirements">Can I also use this license for projects that aren't open source, or to host private projects? </a> <br></div><div class="faq-answer slp-prose slp-max-w-none slp-text-grayscale-333 slp-text-base slp-leading-normal slp-mb-32"><p>No. You may use the GitLab license you receive from the GitLab for
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for which it was approved. In some cases, we allow program members to
host a small number of private projects if those projects contain
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order to use the license outside of program requirements.<br></p></div></span><div><br></div><div>On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, at 6:50 PM, Barry Smith wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style="overflow-wrap:break-word;"><div class="qt-"><br></div><div> Thanks. Looks like we have some cleaning up to do and can't treat the petsc group as a trash dump :-)<br></div><div class="qt-"><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="qt-"><div class="qt-">On Jun 20, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Ham, David A <<a href="mailto:david.ham@imperial.ac.uk" class="qt-">david.ham@imperial.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-"><div class="qt-WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">The front page you link to below contains the following:</span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div><p class="qt-MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;line-height:21pt;"><span style="color:rgb(23, 19, 33);" class="qt-"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt;">Requirements include:</span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:48pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;text-indent:-18pt;line-height:21pt;"><span style="color:rgb(23, 19, 33);" class="qt-"><span class="font" style="font-family:Symbol;"><span class="qt-">·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;" class="qt-"><span class="font" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";"><span class="size" style="font-size:7pt;"><span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span><b class="qt-"><span style="color:rgb(23, 19, 33);" class="qt-"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt;">OSI-approved open source license</span></span></span></b><span style="color:rgb(23, 19, 33);" class="qt-"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt;">: All of the code you host in this GitLab group must be published under <a href="https://opensource.org/licenses/category" style="color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;" class="qt-"><span style="color:rgb(119, 89, 194);" class="qt-">OSI-approved open source licenses</span></a></span></span></span><br></p><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">I believe<span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://gitlab.com/petsc" style="color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;" class="qt-">https://gitlab.com/petsc</a><span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span>is the group (it has a Group ID) and hence everything under<span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://gitlab.com/petsc" style="color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;" class="qt-">https://gitlab.com/petsc</a><span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span>would need to have an OSI licence.</span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Cheers,</span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">David</span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div><div class="qt-"><div class="qt-"><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">--</span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Dr David A. Ham</span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Reader in Computational Mathematics</span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Department of Mathematics</span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Imperial College London</span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div><div style="border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:none;border-bottom-style:none;border-left-style:none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181, 196, 223);padding-top:3pt;padding-right:0cm;padding-bottom:0cm;padding-left:0cm;" class="qt-"><p class="qt-MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><b class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt;">From:<span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt;">petsc-dev <<a href="mailto:petsc-dev-bounces@mcs.anl.gov" style="color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;" class="qt-">petsc-dev-bounces@mcs.anl.gov</a>> on behalf of Barry Smith <<a href="mailto:bsmith@petsc.dev" style="color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;" class="qt-">bsmith@petsc.dev</a>><br class="qt-"><b class="qt-">Date:<span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, 21 June 2022 at 05:35<br class="qt-"><b class="qt-">To:<span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>petsc-dev <<a href="mailto:petsc-dev@mcs.anl.gov" style="color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;" class="qt-">petsc-dev@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br class="qt-"><b class="qt-">Subject:<span class="qt-Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [petsc-dev] Upgrade to Gitlab Open source project must be done ASAP?</span></span></p></div><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm;box-sizing:border-box;padding-inline-start:0px;" class="qt-"><li class="qt-MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6pt;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);box-sizing:border-box;"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="font" style="font-family:"Source Sans Pro", sans-serif;"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt;">Benefits of the GitLab for Open Source Program apply to a namespace. To qualify, every project in an applicant’s namespace must carry an OSI-approved open source license.</span></span></span><br></li></ul><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div></div><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Again, GitLab when you use language that a reasonable person may not understand you provide a link to its meaning. Is the entire petsc/* the namespace? If so we have to be careful about all the packages and oddballs in petsc/* that may not have license information etc. Or is petsc/petsc a name space and this all we care about?</span></span><br></div></div><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"><br class="qt-"></span></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;" class="qt-"><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">On Jun 20, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Barry Smith <<a href="mailto:bsmith@petsc.dev" style="color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;" class="qt-">bsmith@petsc.dev</a>> wrote:</span></span><br></div></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div><div class="qt-"><div class="qt-"><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div></div><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> Did we drop the ball on this? I cannot find out what "tier" PETSc is currently in, I hunt around the settings pages for PETSc and cannot find this information. GitLab should provide a link to how to check this for your project in all their nagging to get people to do something, please at least be informative in your nagging, don't expect me to read your mind.</span></span><br></div></div><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div></div><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div></div><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> </span></span><br></div></div><div class="qt-"><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="qt-"><span style="" class="qt-"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"><a href="https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2022/02/04/ultimate-perks-for-open-source-projects/" style="color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline;text-decoration-thickness:initial;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;" class="qt-">https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2022/02/04/ultimate-perks-for-open-source-projects/</a></span></span><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>