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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">There is some code in PDIPM that copies over matrix elements from user jacobians/hessians to the big KKT matrix. I am not sure how/if that will work with MatMPI_Column.
We’ll have to try out and we need an example for that </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Apple Color Emoji"">😊</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Barry Smith <bsmith@petsc.dev><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 1:21 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Pierre Jolivet <pierre.jolivet@enseeiht.fr><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Abhyankar, Shrirang G" <shrirang.abhyankar@pnnl.gov>, PETSc Development <petsc-dev@mcs.anl.gov><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [petsc-dev] PDIPDM questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> Based on my previous mail I am hoping that the <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">PDIPM algorithm itself won't need a major refactorization to be scalable, only a custom matrix
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 15 Sep 2020, at 5:40 PM, Abhyankar, Shrirang G <<a href="mailto:shrirang.abhyankar@pnnl.gov">shrirang.abhyankar@pnnl.gov</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> You are right. There are a few MatMultTransposeAdd that may need conforming layouts for the equality/inequality constraint vectors and equality/inequality
constraint Jacobian matrices. I need to check if that’s the case. We only have ex1 example currently, we need to add more examples. We are currently working on making PDIPM robust and while doing it will work on adding another example.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Very naive question, but given that I have a single constraint, how do I split a 1 x N matrix column-wise? I thought it was not possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">When setting the size of the constraint vector, you need to set the local size on one rank to 1 and all others to zero. For the Jacobian, the local
row size on that rank will be 1 and all others to zero. The column layout for the Jacobian should follow the layout for vector x. So each rank will set the local column size of the Jacobian to local size of x.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">That is assuming I don’t want x to follow the distribution of the Hessian, which is not my case.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> PDIPM works in parallel so you can have distributed Hessian, Jacobians, constraints, variables, gradients in any layout you want. If you are
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Could you please show an example where this is the case?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">pdipm->x, which I’m assuming is a working vector, is both used as input for Hessian and Jacobian functions, e.g., <a href="https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/blob/master/src/tao/constrained/impls/ipm/pdipm.c#L369">https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/blob/master/src/tao/constrained/impls/ipm/pdipm.c#L369</a> (Hessian)
+ <a href="https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/blob/master/src/tao/constrained/impls/ipm/pdipm.c#L473">https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/blob/master/src/tao/constrained/impls/ipm/pdipm.c#L473</a> (Jacobian)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">In practice, I end up with the following error when I try this (2 processes, distributed Hessian with centralized Jacobian):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[1]PETSC ERROR: Nonconforming object sizes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[1]PETSC ERROR: Vector wrong size 14172 for scatter 0 (scatter reverse and vector to != ctx from size)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[1]PETSC ERROR: #1 VecScatterBegin() line 96 in /Users/jolivet/Documents/repositories/petsc/src/vec/vscat/interface/vscatfce.c<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[1]PETSC ERROR: #2 MatMultTransposeAdd_MPIAIJ() line 1223 in /Users/jolivet/Documents/repositories/petsc/src/mat/impls/aij/mpi/mpiaij.c<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[1]PETSC ERROR: #3 MatMultTransposeAdd() line 2648 in /Users/jolivet/Documents/repositories/petsc/src/mat/interface/matrix.c<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[1]PETSC ERROR: #4 TaoSNESFunction_PDIPM() line 510 in /Users/jolivet/Documents/repositories/petsc/src/tao/constrained/impls/ipm/pdipm.c<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[0]PETSC ERROR: #5 TaoSolve_PDIPM() line 712 in /Users/jolivet/Documents/repositories/petsc/src/tao/constrained/impls/ipm/pdipm.c<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[1]PETSC ERROR: #6 TaoSolve() line 222 in /Users/jolivet/Documents/repositories/petsc/src/tao/interface/taosolver.c<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[0]PETSC ERROR: #3 MatMultTransposeAdd() line 2648 in /Users/jolivet/Documents/repositories/petsc/src/mat/interface/matrix.c<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[0]PETSC ERROR: #4 TaoSNESFunction_PDIPM() line 510 in /Users/jolivet/Documents/repositories/petsc/src/tao/constrained/impls/ipm/pdipm.c<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">[0]PETSC ERROR: #6 TaoSolve() line 222 in /Users/jolivet/Documents/repositories/petsc/src/tao/interface/taosolver.c<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The layout
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Very naive question, but given that I have a single constraint, how do I split a 1 x N matrix column-wise? I thought it was not possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The tutorial example ex1 is extremely small (only 2 variables) so its implementation is very simplistic. I think, in parallel, it ships off constraints
etc. to rank 0. It’s not an ideal example w.r.t demonstrating a parallel implementation. We aim to add more examples as we develop PDIPM. If you have an example to contribute then we would most welcome it and provide help on adding it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">petsc-dev <<a href="mailto:petsc-dev-bounces@mcs.anl.gov">petsc-dev-bounces@mcs.anl.gov</a>>
on behalf of Pierre Jolivet <<a href="mailto:pierre.jolivet@enseeiht.fr">pierre.jolivet@enseeiht.fr</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:52 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[petsc-dev] PDIPDM questions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">In my quest to help users migrate from Ipopt to Tao, I’ve a new question.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">When looking at src/tao/constrained/tutorials/ex1.c, it seems that almost everything is centralized on rank 0 (local sizes are 0 but on rank 0).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I’d like to have my Hessian distributed more naturally, as in (almost?) all other SNES/TS examples, but still keep the Jacobian of my equality constraint, which is of dimension 1 x N (N >> 1), centralized on rank
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Is this possible?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">If not, is it possible to supply the transpose of the Jacobian, of dimension N x 1, which could then be distributed row-wise like the Hessian?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Or maybe use some trick to distribute a MatAIJ/MatDense of dimension 1 x N column-wise? Use a MatNest with as many blocks as processes?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">So, just to sum up, how can I have a distributed Hessian with a Jacobian with a single row?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Thanks in advance for your help,<o:p></o:p></p>
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