<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Jed Brown <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jed@jedbrown.org" target="_blank">jed@jedbrown.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">Barry Smith <<a href="mailto:bsmith@mcs.anl.gov">bsmith@mcs.anl.gov</a>> writes:<br>
> Richard has access to the hardware<br>
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</span>Is this true? Or he will have hardware "soon"?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, I finally have access to hardware. It's a bit hard to get time on, and it's flaky because it is from the initial tape-in, but it's here and I've run on it. That's what prompted me to bring this thread up again.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> and is not going to "lie to us" that "oh it helps so much" because<br>
> he knows that you will test it yourself and see that he is lying.<br>
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</span>I'm not at all worried about him lying, but I'm concerned about being<br>
able to sample across a sufficiently broad range of apps/configurations.<br>
Maybe he can run some PETSc examples and PFLOTRAN, which is a good<br>
start, but may not be running in the appropriately memory-constrained<br>
circumstances of a package with particles like pTatin, for example. We<br>
care not just about the highs but also about the confusing corners that<br>
users will undoubtedly encounter.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Good point, Jed. And I anticipate a lot of confusing corners.</div><div><br></div><div>--Richard </div></div><br></div></div>