You need to get QCT. That makes it easy for me. I believe it works for OSX now.<br><br> Matt<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Barry Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bsmith@mcs.anl.gov">bsmith@mcs.anl.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Toby,<br>
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Yes, hg comments too terse.<br>
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Barry<br>
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My problem is that hg commit doesn't show my changes and so sometimes I don't have a clue what I changed and hence write a poor comment. We need a technical solution that somehow forces and helps useful comments.<div>
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On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Toby D. Young wrote:<br>
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Thanks. I was confused by the directory layout because if I read the<br>
man pages at<br>
<a href="http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation" target="_blank">http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation</a><br>
they are all from the release. I can browse development docs at<br>
<a href="http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/snapshots/petsc-dev/docs/" target="_blank">http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/snapshots/petsc-dev/docs/</a><br>
but the changes at<br>
<a href="http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/snapshots/petsc-dev/docs/changes/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/snapshots/petsc-dev/docs/changes/index.html</a><br>
are from the release, and in particular<br>
<a href="http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/snapshots/petsc-dev/docs/changes/dev.html" target="_blank">http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/snapshots/petsc-dev/docs/changes/dev.html</a><br>
does not exist.<br>
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What really pisses me off, is that the comments in the petsc-dev hg log,<br>
often don't adequately describe why something is changed. Sometimes I find<br>
some critcal change, like "ThisFunction has been removed"; but no note,<br>
reference, or hint as to why or where to go from there... This just makes<br>
using petsc-dev hard if you are not paying *very* careful attention to<br>
the mailing list and thus know why these (often important, sometimes<br>
inexplicable without documentation) changes take place.<br>
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While I do somewhat agree with, for example, "Barry's law of development",<br>
that, "PETSc developers should not pander PETSc users", I also very<br>
strongly believe that "PETSc users should not have to pander the whims of<br>
the PETSc devlopers". A decent documentation of changes in petsc-dev (say<br>
in hg at least!) would very much help remedy that situation from an<br>
outsiders (my) point-of-view!<br>
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Possibly I've gone off on a tangent in this thread...<br>
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With best intentions,<br>
Toby<br>
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Toby D. Young<br>
Assistant Professor<br>
Philosophy-Physics<br>
Polish Academy of Sciences<br>
Warszawa, Polska<br>
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www: <a href="http://www.ippt.gov.pl/%7Etyoung" target="_blank">http://www.ippt.gov.pl/~tyoung</a><br>
skype: stenografia<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>What most experimenters take for granted before they begin their experiments is infinitely more interesting than any results to which their experiments lead.<br>
-- Norbert Wiener<br>