[petsc-dev] Seeking OLCF users complaining about poor build times

Barry Smith bsmith at mcs.anl.gov
Thu Feb 26 13:35:04 CST 2015


  Nathan,

   Are these the "real time"  as reported by the Unix command time (that is the wall clock time)? Something else?

  Thanks

   Barry

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Nathan Collier <nathaniel.collier at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok, so I built PETSc with metis, parmetis, superlu_dist, and hyper on Titan. The configure time is the second configure--when you run the reconfigure script that the batch submission generates for you. 
> 
> configure:  38m15.488s
> make: 15m37.610s
> 
> Nate
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Satish Balay <balay at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> I think we made some progress in improving build times.
> 
> We have some of the externalpackages building using parallel make - so
> that part is faster now. [ Some of this stuff might be in master - but
> not 3.5]
> 
> Some packages are still built sequentially [for eg:
> fblaslapack,scalapack,superlu etc]. Fixing them can reduce build time
> significantly. [esp if the machine has many cores]
> 
> The sequential configure [of all packages] is still the
> bottleneck. All compiles [by PETSc configure] are done in TMPDIR to
> avoid NFS I/O.
> 
> Reducing the number of tests done in configure won't be easy. I have a
> minor fix that avoids unnecessary compiles wrt externalpackages in
> branch 'balay/update-configure-lib-search'
> 
> BTW: I don't have access to oakridge machines..
> 
> Satish
> 
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Barry Smith wrote:
> 
> >
> >   Shockingly this is not bad (though more than it should be), we've seen times like an hour on the NERSC and ANL systems.
> >
> >   If you have time :-) could you run with metis, permetis, superlu_dist and hypre --with-debugging=0 and get the times separately for configure and make?
> >
> >   Thanks
> >
> >    Barry
> >
> > > On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Nathan Collier <nathaniel.collier at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have built on Titan, I can time my configure for more accurate answers but I would say it was on the order of 10-15 minutes. That is with a Metis/parmetis build. Is this the type of experience you are looking for? More details?
> > >
> > > Nate
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, February 25, 2015, Victor Eijkhout <eijkhout at tacc.utexas.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Feb 25, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you have accounts there and can reproduce slow configure/make times
> > >
> > > Just let me know if you want a comparison to TACC machines.
> > >
> > > Starting with Ranger, we gave our build node its own file system because I regularly crashed lustre with the petsc build. No fault of Petsc.
> > >
> > > And I have no complaints about the configure/make speed, on either our build node or the regular user file system.
> > >
> > > Victor.
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 




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