[petsc-dev] seen on a competitors site

Aron Ahmadia aron at ahmadia.net
Tue Jul 9 15:36:59 CDT 2013


If you guys want to go through the small pain of setting up conda
installation files for binstar, Continuum can host you guys through wakari
(including launching parallel cloud runs on EC2), as well as provide binary
installers for you on OS X, Windows, and Linux.

A


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:

> Satish Balay <balay at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
>
> > I was thinking more in terms of what amzon would charge for using such
> > big images. [presumably charge rate would be higher]
>
> It is just disk space; the EBS limit is 1 TiB:
>
>
> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ComponentsAMIs.html#storage-for-the-root-device
>
> >> I don't understand how it can be that big.  6GB is my entire system
> >> including KDE, GNOME, and ton of other huge extraneous packages.
> >> Non-debug libpetsc.so is less than 10MB.  Anyway, I think this is the
> >> distribution model
> >
> > The debug builds are huge. [perhaps they can be trimmed down a bit
> > with -g insted of '-g3' ]
>
> My build with gcc-4.8.1 -g3 is 45 MB and with clang-3.3 -g3 is 28 MB.
> This amount of storage is not the problem.
>
> > Also we discussed defaulting to gcc-4.7+ - so I used fedora-18 which
> > has that default. And all the default developer software adds up to
> > the basic install.
> >
> > I attempted a minimal linux with xfce [one of the light weight
> > desktops] If we distribute images we need a desktop - but with amazon
> > - I guess that could be cut down [and cut down X?] - and bring down
> > the disk requirement.
>
> Do people want remote desktop on EC2?  If AMS can provide GUI stuff then
> even PETSC_VIEWER_DRAW_ functionality could be put in their web browser,
> which I think will ultimately be nicer to interact with anyway (but
> makes https critical unless we also ask them to add port forwarding so
> that it tunnels over SSH).
>
> > Also amazon images might cut down on swap and other stuff that might
> > take up space on a regular VM. [my cleaned up image of 5.4GB might be
> > with swap zeroed/compressed out..]
>
> Ultimately, it doesn't matter because it'll all be in EBS and 5GB
> vs. 50GB is irrelevant.  It matters for a VM.
>
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