<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Paul, <div><br></div><div>I tried many ways to map my straight pipe geometry but it does not seem to work properly </div><div><br></div><div>I used something like </div><div><br></div><div>X = X + Z * tan ( alpha ) </div><div>Y = Y + Z* tan (alpha ) </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>even that dint work. could please help me with this </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you </div><div><br></div><div>Kamal.</div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:24 PM, <a href="mailto:nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov">nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Hi Paul, <br>
<br>
Thanks paul. I tried working with the diverging mesh modification.<br>
<br>
I tried to use this form of equation to modify the mesh <br>
<br>
z = mx + b<br>
z = ny + c <br>
<br>
x = ( z - b ) / m <br>
y = (z - c) / n<br>
<br>
Do you think would work ? or is there any other way to input that ?<br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
<br>
Kamal<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Kamal,
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<div>1) To check for convergence, run your simulation for
increasing polynomial orders ( lx1 in the SIZE file) and
measure some consistent quantity (drag, TKE, etc). You can
plot this quantity against lx1 and this should give you a good
picture of how you are converging (without needing to change
the physical mesh).</div>
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<div>2) If you weren't using temperature in your simulation, you
could do put the following code snippet in your userchk</div>
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<div>c-------------------------------------------</div>
<div>integer i, ntot</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>ntot = nx1*ny1*nz1*nelv ! total number of points in
simulation (on THIS processor)</div>
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</div>
<div>do i = 1,ntot</div>
<div> t(i,1,1,1,1) = 0.5*(vx(i,1,1,1)**2 + vy(i,1,1,1)**2 +
vz(i,1,1,1)**2)</div>
<div>enddo</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>ifto = .true.</div>
<div>c-------------------------------------------</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I've assumed here that your density is unity. This
computed kinetic energy point-wise and stores it in the
temperature field. The part "ifto = .true." tells Nek to
output the temperature field whenever it outputs a field file.
You could then view this in visit just like you would the
velocity field.</div>
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<div>Hope this helps!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Josh</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:52 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a>></span>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Paul,<br>
<br>
I will try that mapping, I created a straight pipe to do
some simulations.<br>
<br>
1) Is there a way to check my spectral convergence, so that
I can do some mesh convergence study?<br>
2) Is there a way to plot the kinetic energy in the flow ?<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Kamal
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Hi Kamal,<br>
<br>
For the geometry you describe, I would apply mesh
morphing<br>
to a standard straight pipe. You can create such a
pipe<br>
using a subset of the mkmesh script provided in the
expansion<br>
example.<br>
<br>
If your transition region is conical, then I woud make<br>
certain that the change in slope occurs at element
boundaries,<br>
i.e., as in the half cross-section depicted below:<br>
<br>
_______________<br>
/| | |<br>
/ | | |<br>
/| | | |<br>
________________/ | | | |<br>
| | | | | | | |<br>
| | | | | | | |<br>
+-----+-----+---+--+---+------+------+---->
z<br>
<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
<br>
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Hi Paul,<br>
<br>
I looked at the example and it looks very helpful,
but for a sudden expansion we have only two parts
(i.e) the inlet pipe and the outlet pipe. Whereas in
a diverging pipe we have three section (i.e,) The
inlet pipe, Diverging section and the outlet pipe.<br>
<br>
<br>
Is it possible for me to create a 2D diverging
section using mesh modification and revolve it
around the centre axis to get a 3d diverging pipe ?<br>
<br>
<br>
or should I apply the mesh modification directly to
the 3d sudden expansion pipe using usrdat2() ?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Kamal<br>
<br>
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Hi Paul,<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot for the update. I will take a look at
as soon as possible and keep you updated with it.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Kamal<br>
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Kamal,<br>
<br>
I've added an example for a step-type expansion
in a pipe. New example directory<br>
is nek5_svn/examples/expansion, with a README.<br>
<br>
If you want a standard diffuser, I would use
mesh-morphing, as outlined in the<br>
nek primer, which can be found on this page:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://nek5000.mcs.anl.gov/index.php/UG#Documentation" target="_blank">http://nek5000.mcs.anl.gov/index.php/UG#Documentation</a><br>
<br>
I've also automated our turbulent outflow bc
treatment -- one simply provides an<br>
expansion factor (typically ~ 1.5) and two
persistent arrays to turb_outflow(), which<br>
is now in navier5.f. This can be useful when
very strong vortices are leaving the<br>
domain, which is possible for certain diffuser
flow conditions (and others).<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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Subject: [Nek5000-users] Creating a Mesh<br>
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Hi<br>
<br>
Can some one please help me in this because I am
new to nek<br>
<br>
1) How can I create a .rea for a specific
geometry say ' A sudden<br>
expansion pipe ' or a ' Diverging pipe '<br>
<br>
2) What tool I should use to create that mesh.<br>
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Thank you<br>
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kamal<br>
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