<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Paul, <div><br></div><div>I tried many ways to map my straight pipe geometry but it does not seem to work properly </div><div><br></div><div>I used something like </div><div><br></div><div>X = X + Z * tan ( alpha ) </div><div>Y = Y + Z* tan (alpha ) </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>even that dint work. could please help me with this </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you </div><div><br></div><div>Kamal.</div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:24 PM, <a href="mailto:nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov">nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    Hi Paul, <br>
    <br>
    Thanks paul. I tried working with the diverging mesh modification.<br>
    <br>
    I tried to use this form of equation to modify the mesh <br>
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    z = mx + b<br>
    z = ny  + c <br>
    <br>
    x = ( z - b ) / m <br>
    y = (z - c)  / n<br>
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    Do you think would work ? or is there any other way to input that ?<br>
    <br>
    Thanks, <br>
    <br>
    Kamal<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/01/2014 14:14,
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      <div dir="ltr">Kamal,
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        <div>1) To check for convergence, run your simulation for
          increasing polynomial orders ( lx1 in the SIZE file) and
          measure some consistent quantity (drag, TKE, etc).  You can
          plot this quantity against lx1 and this should give you a good
          picture of how you are converging (without needing to change
          the physical mesh).</div>
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        <div>2) If you weren't using temperature in your simulation, you
          could do put the following code snippet in your userchk</div>
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        <div>c-------------------------------------------</div>
        <div>integer i, ntot</div>
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        <div>ntot = nx1*ny1*nz1*nelv  ! total number of points in
          simulation (on THIS processor)</div>
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        <div>do i = 1,ntot</div>
        <div>   t(i,1,1,1,1) = 0.5*(vx(i,1,1,1)**2 + vy(i,1,1,1)**2 +
          vz(i,1,1,1)**2)</div>
        <div>enddo</div>
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        <div>ifto = .true.</div>
        <div>c-------------------------------------------</div>
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        <div>I've assumed here that your density is unity.  This
          computed kinetic energy point-wise and stores it in the
          temperature field.  The part "ifto = .true." tells Nek to
          output the temperature field whenever it outputs a field file.
           You could then view this in visit just like you would the
          velocity field.</div>
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        <div>Hope this helps!</div>
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        <div>Josh</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:52 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a>></span>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Paul,<br>
            <br>
            I will try that mapping, I created a straight pipe to do
            some simulations.<br>
            <br>
            1) Is there a way to check my spectral convergence, so that
            I can do some mesh convergence study?<br>
            2) Is there a way to plot the kinetic energy in the flow ?<br>
            <br>
            Thank you,<br>
            Kamal
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                On 15/01/2014 12:14, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a>
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                  Hi Kamal,<br>
                  <br>
                  For the geometry you describe, I would apply mesh
                  morphing<br>
                  to a standard straight pipe.  You can create such a
                  pipe<br>
                  using a subset of the mkmesh script provided in the
                  expansion<br>
                  example.<br>
                  <br>
                  If your transition region is conical, then I woud make<br>
                  certain that the change in slope occurs at element
                  boundaries,<br>
                  i.e., as in the half cross-section depicted below:<br>
                  <br>
                                                _______________<br>
                                               /|      |      |<br>
                                             /  |      |      |<br>
                                           /|   |      |      |<br>
                         ________________/  |   |      |      |<br>
                         |     |     |   |  |   |      |      |<br>
                         |     |     |   |  |   |      |      |<br>
                         +-----+-----+---+--+---+------+------+---->
                   z<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Paul<br>
                  <br>
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                  On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a>
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                    Hi Paul,<br>
                    <br>
                    I looked at the example and it looks very helpful,
                    but for a sudden expansion we have only two parts
                    (i.e) the inlet pipe and the outlet pipe. Whereas in
                    a diverging pipe we have three section (i.e,) The
                    inlet pipe, Diverging section and the outlet pipe.<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Is it possible for me to create a 2D diverging
                    section using mesh modification and revolve it
                    around the centre axis to get a 3d diverging pipe ?<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    or should I apply the mesh modification directly to
                    the 3d sudden expansion pipe using usrdat2() ?<br>
                    <br>
                    Thanks,<br>
                    Kamal<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    On 14/01/2014 21:09, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a>
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                      Hi Paul,<br>
                      <br>
                      Thanks a lot for the update. I will take a look at
                      as soon as possible and keep you updated with it.<br>
                      <br>
                      Thank you,<br>
                      <br>
                      Kamal<br>
                      <br>
                      On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:04 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">nek5000-users@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a>
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                        Kamal,<br>
                        <br>
                        I've added an example for a step-type expansion
                        in a pipe. New example directory<br>
                        is nek5_svn/examples/expansion, with a README.<br>
                        <br>
                        If you want a standard diffuser, I would use
                        mesh-morphing, as outlined in the<br>
                        nek primer, which can be found on this page:<br>
                        <br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://nek5000.mcs.anl.gov/index.php/UG#Documentation" target="_blank">http://nek5000.mcs.anl.gov/index.php/UG#Documentation</a><br>
                        <br>
                        I've also automated our turbulent outflow bc
                        treatment -- one simply provides an<br>
                        expansion factor (typically ~ 1.5) and two
                        persistent arrays to turb_outflow(), which<br>
                        is now in navier5.f.    This can be useful when
                        very strong vortices are leaving the<br>
                        domain, which is possible for certain diffuser
                        flow conditions (and others).<br>
                        <br>
                        Paul<br>
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                        Hi<br>
                        <br>
                        Can some one please help me in this because I am
                        new to nek<br>
                        <br>
                        1) How can I create a .rea for a specific
                        geometry say ' A sudden<br>
                        expansion pipe ' or a ' Diverging pipe '<br>
                        <br>
                        2) What tool I should use to create that mesh.<br>
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                        Thank you<br>
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