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<div>Hi,</div>
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<div>I'm trying to set up a turbulent shear layer similiar to the test cases used in <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/h7263g6268875412/fulltext.pdf"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" color="#0000FF"><u>http://www.springerlink.com/content/h7263g6268875412/fulltext.pdf</u></font></a>
(DNS of Compressible Inert and Infinitely Fast Reacting Mixing Layers, Mahle, Sesterhenn, Friedrich; New Res. in Num. and Exp. Fluid Mech. VI, NNFM 96, pp. 372<font face="Tahoma, sans-serif">–</font>380, 2007) and <a href="http://maeresearch.ucsd.edu/SARKAR/PantanoSW_jfm_03.pdf"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" color="#0000FF"><u>http://maeresearch.ucsd.edu/SARKAR/PantanoSW_jfm_03.pdf</u></font></a><font face="Arial, sans-serif">
</font>(Mixing of a conserved scalar in a turbulent reacting shear layer, Pantano, Sarkar, Williams; J. Fluid Mech. (2003), vol. 481, pp. 291<font face="Tahoma, sans-serif">–</font>328). However, my simulations converge to the laminar flow and/or explode. I
know that the papers used compressible flows, but I hoped that it may work for incompressible flows as well. I'm not interested chemical reactions since I just want to observe the mixing of passive scalars in a turbulent flow using DNS. </div>
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<div>It is a 2D test case at the moment so it can be run on my small workstation (only 4 Cores). It is a channel ([0,2]x[0,1]) with periodic boundary conditions in x-direction and moving walls with velocity u=1 on the bottom side of the mesh and u=-1 on the
upper side. The flow is initialized with a hyperbolic tangent profile with random perturbations added. The mesh has 64x32 elements with p=9. I made some runs with to different settings. One case is only the unsteady NS equation and in the second case the temperature
and one passive scalar are added. </div>
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<div>In the first case, the flow gets laminar and after approx. 269000 iterations the solution explodes. In the second case, the solver has trouble with the flow although I use the same initial and boundary conditions for the velocity field. It takes 384 time
steps until the divergence of the velocity field is smaller than 1e-1 while in the first case it only takes six time steps. Furthermore, the Helmholtz solver for the passive scalar fails right from the beginning. It does not matter if I initialize the scalar
with zeros or something else. The temperature field doesn't make problems like this. The velocity field also looks a bit strange. You can identify the edges of the elements and the solution begins to blow up pretty soon (approx. 20000 time steps). </div>
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<div>The meshes was generated using genbox and prenek/prex. All files are attached to the mail.</div>
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<div>Has anyone experienced a similar problem or can give me a hint what I'm doing wrong? I also tried other cases, but the flows always gets laminar or explodes so it is seems to be my fault. If anyone has an idea for a better/easier test case I would appreciate
any suggestions. I just want a DNS of a turbulent flow in an easy geometry that can be handled with about 32 CPUs when running as 3D case.</div>
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<div>Just two more things:</div>
<div>1. Why can't I join the mailing list? I think I subscribed 2-3 times, but I don't get any mails.</div>
<div>2. Where can I report (probably) useful information or small bugs that are not directly related to the solver?</div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>Alex</div>
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